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IRVINE: Let me ask. Way down below that it says, in Section 6-4.4 or 3, <br />depending on which version you're looking at, `(b) Train, equip, maintain and supervise <br />a force of firefighting and emergency resource personnel.' Is that okay? <br />HOLSCHUH: You could just say emergency medical services personnel. <br />IRVINE: Medical personnel there too. <br />HOLSCHUH: EMS personnel. The State EMS Services, under the Department <br />of Health, is in fact called EMS. It is EMSS, Emergency Medical Services System, and <br />that's what our County group is under. <br />HERKES: Put emergency medical services and rescue? <br />BESS: Yes, that's what I would suggest, as well. <br />HERKES: Because I like the rescue part. <br />HOLSCHUH: Sure. Although it is implied in EMS, frankly. <br />HERKES: Well, it's implied but it's not really spelled out. <br />HOLSCHUH: But sure, that's fine. Sure. And the public will understand. <br />HIGASHI: One thing. The EMS is a contract with the State. The State <br />actually provides the EMS services by contract with the County. So if that service is <br />terminated, it shouldn't be reflected in our Charter. It's kind of an ongoing year to year <br />deal that we do it on a contract basis, because in Oahu, they do it differently. <br />HOLSCHUH: Well, Roland, forgive me. I would argue that the opposite would be <br />true. We ought to maybe mention it in the Charter so we can pick up the pieces, God <br />help us, if it were ever terminated. You know what I'm saying? My estimation, that <br />language 'EMS' which is a national standard, unless maybe I don't understand <br />something about the way one writes this in the Charter, and that may well be because <br />you guys are way more versed. 1 see what you're saying, but I don't think EMS is <br />definitely just State EMS. In other words, EMS is a national term, and I like EMS and if <br />you had EMS and rescue, that's fine, but EMS is emergency medical services. There <br />are documents and courses and textbooks on that. <br />HIGASHI: That's fine. <br />BESS: Following up on what Roland's saying here, I'm just wondering <br />whether or not, if that is a concern, about putting medical services into the Charter, that <br />what we might do is just say 'and emergency services' and that the record clearly <br />reflect what we intend by that is, and I'm talking about the record of the Charter <br />Commission, that what we're intending is clearly medical services and rescue. And then <br />20 <br />