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ROSS: So, just for the record, I'm stating I don't agree with that. That's all.
<br />I have a problem. I could not get this document until one day before your Kamuela
<br />hearing. I went to the Mayor's Office, Room 217, and there were three of these
<br />documents that's on the table here, you know, your -
<br />RAY: Summary, right.
<br />ROSS: Whatever the underlined and bracketed stuff, and whatever, the
<br />actual language that you are so far proposing, which was to be a public document. And
<br />the secretary put three of those, without a name on it, in the basket in Room 217. So
<br />took one because I had been with her on the phone - not that day, but other times
<br />where she said if I have distributions to make, or something, you can find them there.
<br />There was a girl there. I forget her name, one of the secretaries, who came
<br />immediately running up from the back, ripped it out of my hand. 'I see we made a
<br />mistake. We shouldn't have put this basket here.' Now, mind you, there was a note on
<br />it that says Hawaii Redevelopment Agency, facing me, behind the counter. 'No, that's
<br />only for the Redevelopment Agency,'and so on, 'and we'll put it under the table.'
<br />RAY: I apologize for that confusion. The intent was to make them as
<br />thoroughly distributed as possible. We mailed out 280 copies to community groups
<br />around the island.
<br />ROSS: Yes, the big question is going to be how many that really get
<br />picked up because of all of this, because the people in Kamuela probably didn't have
<br />this. I don't know. Maybe you had a stack in Kamuela, of those. I wasn't there. But
<br />was here in Hilo and I wanted to get whatever I could to go to the Kamuela meeting
<br />because, on that day, -somebody drove me over to Kohala. I cannot drive distances,
<br />myself, any more, and then I run into this in the morning. Then I went to the County
<br />Clerk's Office. They had one copy under the counter and I could look at it. Now, my
<br />eyes are so bad I cannot read a document like this while other people may be behind
<br />me, so on and so on. So, fortunately Mr. Arakaki came by and he said, what's wrong.
<br />said I would like to have a copy of this document so I can read it with the proper light,
<br />which they don't have, and so on, at my ease, at my pace. And he immediately had
<br />another copy made from his copy and that was it, except that I went back to the Room
<br />217 later in the day and they said, `oh, after all, you can have a copy because I made a
<br />call to Ms.', I forget names easily so, the secretary and she had clued them in that, yes
<br />indeed, that was for the public. Now, these are misunderstandings that shouldn't
<br />happen. These people have nothing to do except have that basket there, and -
<br />RAY: Mr. Ross, I already apologized for that, okay? We're doing the
<br />best we can to get this information out, okay?
<br />ROSS: Yes, I'll leave it to you how to handle that. So, these are just some
<br />technical things that I wanted to call to your attention, that you otherwise may not have
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