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PRANKE: I understand, but that sort of brings up the question as to whether we can trust some of the things that are said. I'll move on. RAY: Del, yes. Okay, I don't think there's another agenda here. We're just trying to be somewhat informal in our discussion and Marni was just sharing and she asked representatives of the Green Party, Keiko Bonk and Michael Christopher, in regard to clearing up this issue, in regard to the six -three proposal at the Kona Public Hearing, and I think she thought, possibly, the rumor she heard was connected with that, and they clarified that no, they were absolutely not in favor of the six -three as well. So, that went on the record, and they're on the record. Actually, I'm not sure if they were testifying as the Green Party. Keiko testified as an individual, I know. But anyway, they clearly set the record straight in regard to their feelings on both of those. So, I don't think there's a problem with - PRANKE: I understand, but that still doesn't answer my question as how these things come up. Where did this come from? I mean, there's no written record of it. Okay, for the record also, Keiko Bonk and Michael Christopher are not the Green Party. I talked with Mary Marvin Porter, a Co -Chair of the Green Party, and she said definitely no. I also spoke with Rene' Sircusa, who is now giving the keynote speech at the Green Party Headquarters Convention, and there is no such thing. Okay, we know that's not true. I have put in some changes here, and I'll try to just let you read those and maybe we • can talk at them another time. But, one of the things is I gave you a list of three things here, the note to the Charter Commission Reviewers. On page 27 of the Charter, Section 13-1(d), defines officers of the county and refers to persons who have been "appointed" as officers. Okay. Sprinkled throughout the Charter are places where the Mayor nominates people and then those nominations go to the Council for approval. Some places it refers to those people as being "appointed". That's a misnomer, and I think those should all be changed. I went through this with the County Council at a recent meeting. The Mayor does not appoint people. The Mayor nominates them. If they are confirmed or denied by the Council, then they must then go through a third process which is to take an oath of office. Then they are appointed. So that's something that should be cleared up because of the reasons I put in there. Mr. Rudy Legaspi's currently serving in a job which he says he's being paid a dollar a year. He retired. I have some questions as to whether he's an officer of the County, an employee of the County, what kind of situation that is. And I think that perhaps that needs to be cleared up some way in the Charter, as to whether people are allowed to work for the County if they're not beholden to the County. If they're not getting a salary, then there's no way to talk about discipline of such a person, just in my thought. And then finally, the term "Board and Commission", sometimes they're misused, I think, in the Charter. Commission should have specific jobs such as oversight, like the 18