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MR. KUROHARA: Thank you. CHR. HAITSUKA: We have Mr. Lee here, I believe. MR. MASUDA: Mr. Chairman, before you go to Public Works, is the Commission going to recall Environmental Management? We have Mr. Torigoe here. (Note: At this time, Ivan Torigoe, Deputy Director, Department of Environmental Management, came forward to address the members of the Commission.) CHR. HAITSUKA: Mr. Torigoe, you wanted to address the Commission? MR. TORIGOE: Thank you Mr. Chairman. Not necessarily, but I just wanted to report to you that last time I was here I said we were going to have a meeting of the Environmental Management Commission on May 27, 2009. Unfortunately, we had a quorum until the night before, and then that fell apart. We have not been able to consult with that Commission. We are hoping to do so at the next meeting, which is going to be July 29, 2009. Unless you have any questions, that's all I had to report. MS. JARMAN: I think I had asked you to go back and talk to the Director, and maybe the Commission, about adding Energy to you instead of having it in Research and Development. Did you have a chance to have that discussion? Or is that still planned, and you can report later? MR. TORIGOE: I can tell you, just generally, what the Director's leans are at this point. As this Commission has noted, Research and Development is a pretty broad spectrum, as opposed to Environmental Management, really being focused on controlling certain basic impacts on the environment and people on the island, namely solid waste and wastewater. The Environmental Management Department's expertise is focused in that way, and we are really not equipped or staffed to take on the primary role in helping in terms of energy and food sustainability. In that sense, we would tend to rather see it stay with Research and Development, which I think is better geared toward attacking these sustainability types of questions. That's the general direction that I've gotten from the Director at this point. Again, these are all matters that we want to take to the Environmental Management Commission to get further input. MS. KAWAUCHI: As a follow up to Casey's comment, energy also consists of waste to energy as well. There is sustainability as well as waste to energy, so do you have any comment on that? MR. TORIGOE: Again, that would be kind of a by- product of the general mission of the department, to control the solid waste flow. That's just one small part of the entire sustainability and energy equation. We think that broader questions or approaches about energy sustainability would probably be handled better by Research and Development. 21