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probably correct. I should be more definite than that because she did calculate it, and I <br />would stand behind the number that she gave you. <br />MR. LINGER: That's fine, that gives me a good idea. <br />MS.CRAWFORD: I apologize for not thinking of other ones right now. The debt service <br />and the fringe benefits are a very large portion of that number. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Are there any other questions for Mr. Crawford? Mr. Nahale -a. <br />MR. NAHALE -A: Yes, I have a question, and I'll ask you to kind of forgive my ignorance a <br />little bit and work with me on the questions. My understanding is that the 2% set -aside <br />currently exists, but there is a two -year moratorium, correct? <br />MS.CRAWFORD: Right. <br />MR. NAHALE -A: So, after the two years, it's going to be 2% again, right? <br />MS.CRAWFORD: Yes. <br />MR. NAHALE -A: I really understand your premise that having these set - asides are <br />challenging, and then basically we could just have 100% set - asides in the budget, <br />theoretically. For example, I don't support the set -aside for the Legislative Auditor's office. <br />The difference for the Open Space proposal is obviously that the public spoke on it already. <br />And so to me - -and I'm going to get to the question, I promise - -I'm trying to weigh the notion <br />that every Council and every Mayor is going to look to these funds. We are giving <br />permission, basically, that it's okay, and we can describe tough times any way we want. <br />Let's face it, these are significantly different times, but if we lowered the percentage in this <br />Charter Amendment to .5% like you proposed, wouldn't you be supportive of that change? <br />MS.CRAWFORD: My first choice would be that it not be in the Charter, but if it is - -and <br />that's how I end my written testimony - -then, yes, if it's going to be in the Charter, if that's <br />the will of the people to have it in the Charter, then the next thing that I would say is that 2% <br />is a very large amount, and we would request that you consider a lesser amount that is closer <br />to what other counties in the State of Hawaii are using. <br />MR. NAHALE -A: In practice, when we are crafting the budget, are there any other -- besides <br />fixed costs - -that are set - asides? <br />MS.CRAWFORD: No, we have certain special purpose funds, but that's different. The <br />revenues that come in are for those funds, and they are raised by those funds. <br />MR. NAHALE -A: Thank you. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Are there any other questions? Thank you, Ms. Crawford. Next we <br />have Cory Harden. Good afternoon. <br />0 <br />