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CHR. HAITSUKA: Thank you, Mr. Goodenow. Are you going to be around when we <br />discuss CA -12? <br />MR. GOODENOW: Yes. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Okay, thank you. Next we have Debbie Hecht. <br />MS. KAWAUCHI: Mr. Chair, I have a question. I notice that Ms. Hecht submitted a <br />Communication 181 that appears to be substituting some language concerning CA -15. <br />I'm wondering if we can postpone Ms. Hecht's testimony concerning CA -15 until we <br />bring that up for discussion during our consideration of the second reading of CA -15. <br />I'm wondering if we can do that because I know that it is attempting to substitute some <br />language; if Ms. Hecht is able to stay. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Do you want to give your testimony when we discuss CA -15, or do <br />you want to discuss it now, and stay around for the discussion? You also have CA -16 to <br />testify to. <br />DEBBIE HECHT <br />(At this time Debbie Hecht came forward to address members of the Charter Commission.) <br />MS. HECHT: Either way is fine. I can do it then, maybe that would be better. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Why don't I ask Ms. Hecht to stay around to discuss CA -15, and <br />you can proceed with your testimony now on CA -15 and CA -16. <br />MS. HECHT: Alright. My name is Debbie Hecht. I was also a member of the <br />committee that rewrote Article XI, Initiative and Referendum. I submitted CA -16, which <br />was to use the language from initiative and referendum to be able to revise the Charter. <br />When we did the 2% we ran into incredible problems. We were just a citizens' <br />committee, we did not know what we were getting into. There were problems every step <br />of the way. The County didn't know how to proceed, we didn't know what to use for <br />petitions; so Marian, Sue and I wrote a step by step, in chronological order, in very <br />simple language, not legalize, so that people could honestly understand the process and <br />procedures. So, I think it is real important to do the same with the Charter. Sue worked <br />real hard on Communication 212. Sue Dursin wrote that; she was the past president of <br />the League of Women Voters. This really lays out the process very much similarly. The <br />only thing that was taken out was the part about referendum, because it obviously doesn't <br />apply to amending the Charter. So, I hope you will amend CA -16 that I wrote, with her <br />Communication 212. I know it's very long, but again this is one of the few times that a <br />citizens' group won't probably have the money or the wherewithal to hire an attorney to <br />interpret the Charter for them to proceed. So, we thought it was incredibly important to <br />lay it out in very simple language for citizens' groups. <br />17 <br />