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sufficient to provide some leverage to provide some leverage needed for seeking matching funds and private and public grants. To have that consistency, if you have it in the Charter, you will be able to seek those funds. Without it being in the Charter, there is no ability for any outside third party to believe; it may not be there next month. Lastly, I just want to say how important it is, a public initiative, something that is geared towards the future of this island to have in the Charter, and I hope you will support it. Thank you, very much. CHR. HAITSUKA: Do we have anybody else in Waimea? MS. HANANO: No, that is all for today. CHR. HAITSUKA: Thank you. Do we have someone in Kona to testify? MR. HIRT: Good afternoon. Yes, we have three testifiers here today. Our first testifier is Marian Wilkins to speak in support of CA -15 and CA -16, representing herself. CHR. HAITSUKA: Thank you. MARIAN WILKINS (At this time Marian Wilkins, came forward to address members of the Charter Commission.) MS. WILKINS: Good afternoon Chairman and members of the Commission. As Helen Hemmes said, who testified for the League of Women Voters, from the Hilo office, I am here just in case someone would like to ask any questions; and I hope that I can answer them. That would be CA -16. We hope that you will pass that. We have worked on the initiative and referendum part for over a year to get the wording right; and we think that the wording we have in here is appropriate for a petition for the charter revision also. I do want to add, on my own, that I support the 2% land fund. I hope that we can get that in there. It looks as though the Kona coast will be losing the state conservation land of `O'oma very soon; it is already in private hands. We do need the lands set aside for posterity. Thank you. CHR. HAITSUKA: Thank you very much. MR. HIRT: Our next testifier in Kona today is Ben Dysart. He is here to speak in support of the 2% land fund and he represents himself. CHR. HAITSUKA: Good afternoon. BEN DYSART (At this time Ben Dysart, came forward to address members of the Charter Commission.)