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Mr. Unger moved to consolidate CA -23 <br />and CA -9. Seconded by Mr. Shumway and <br />carried by the following vote: <br />Ayes: Commissioners Fuertes, Nahale -a, <br />Osborne, Shumway, Unger and <br />Chair Haitsuka. <br />Noes: Commissioners Honma, Jarman and <br />Kawauchi. <br />Absent: Commissioners Kaulukukui and Kealoha. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Do I have any other motions to consolidate any of the proposed <br />amendments? <br />Mr. Shumway moved to consolidate CA -36, <br />CA -3 and CA -4. Seconded by Mr. Unger. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Is there any discussion? <br />MS. JARMAN: Mr. Chair, I don't quite understand why -- -Isn't CA -2 the same as <br />CA -3? I'm not going to vote for combining but - -- <br />MR. SHUMWAY: I think Mr. Hookano said that CA -2 was separate, or should be <br />separate, and I was trying to follow his guidelines. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Mr. Hookano, do you have any comment? <br />MR. HOOKANO: I'm sorry, I missed that discussion. <br />MR. SHUMWAY: I'll repeat that. The question is on CA -2; I thought you said that <br />CA -2 should stand alone. Is that correct? <br />MR. HOOKANO: Yes, that's correct. My opinion was that CA -2 should stand alone <br />because besides moving data systems, it also re -names data systems to the department of <br />information technology. So, because of that name change, in my opinion, it stands alone. <br />MS. KAWAUCHI: Mr. Chair. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Ms. Kawauchi. <br />MS. KAWAUCHI: I'm concerned about the wording of the motions that we are making <br />and passing on this issue. I think that we should be on the record when making the <br />motion, and be clear as to what we mean by "consolidation." If anybody has a question <br />on what consolidation is going to mean, it's on the record. Earlier we just discussed is as <br />a discussion of the communication, but not as the motion. My thought is that when <br />12 <br />