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CHR. HAITSUKA: Thank you, Ms. Jarman. Is there any further discussion? MS. KAWAUCHI: I would agree with that comment. I would also add that I think that if we did consolidate them, it would add extra work as well. People would have to think about how best to word things, and it could be confusing; particularly since we didn't vote to consolidate them, as Ms. Jarman has said. Anyways, I support that comment. CHR. HAITSUKA: Thank you, Ms. Kawauchi. Is there any other discussion? CHR. HAITSUKA: I am generally in favor consolidating; and I think I am in favor of consolidating similar to the proposal by Margaret Wille, with the exception of #9. I don't know if we can consolidate those six proposed amendments in her item #9. I would leave that to Mr. Hookano, because I thought that we could not consolidate substantive changes with non - substantive changes. I thought there was some kind of consideration regarding those. Mr. Hookano, do you have any comments on Ms. Wille's testimony; item #9? MR. HOOKANO: I don't have that in front of me right now. Give me a second to take a look at that. CHR. HAITSUKA: Thank you. I'll just state that I am in favor of consolidating because we have 19 proposed amendments. I think that when the voters get to the booth and see 19 separate amendments, not to mention the other choices that they have to make, it's going to take some time to go through all of that, and I don't know if the voters will want to see all of these different separate amendments and have to make all these decisions separately. I think it would be more effective that if some these that share the same type of content be grouped together. MR. HOOKANO: Mr. Chair, you were looking at item #9 on Ms. Wille's testimony; is that correct? CHR. HAITSUKA: Yes, that is correct. MR. HOOKANO: I think, looking at that, that some of them could be combined. But, I would think that CA -1, CA -2 and CA -5 cannot be included in that list because they change titles, they change the names of the departments and the terms of the merit appeals board. Those changes are more substantive. Moving the fire department; I think is closer to a "housekeeping" item, since it is not changing the language of the fire department; and the civil service laws are coming up to compliance with state law. But, to the extent that I think those are more closely related than that whole list together. CHR. HAITSUKA: For clarification, are you saying CA -2 and CA -4? MR. HOOKANO: CA -1, CA -2 and CA -5 seem to make more substantive changes than the rest, just off the top of my head, whereas CA -3, CA -4 and CA -36 could all be viewed as "housekeeping" matters. But, again, they do make changes to the Charter that are kind 9