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MS. JARMAN: And how would you determine "valid votes cast" if we didn't have this <br />language which said, "in the Mayoral election" or if it were not keyed it into the actual <br />office of the person who is now potentially subject to recall? <br />MS. NAKAMOTO: Based on this, if we needed to calculate the 25% for that particular <br />race, we would look at the candidates in that race; add up the votes, less the blank and <br />over votes. <br />MS. JARMAN: And if you were doing it and it wasn't just for a particular race and it just <br />said "valid votes cast" in general, what would you do? <br />MS. NAKAMOTO: I can't recall how it is listed, but we would probably look at the total <br />turnout for the election. <br />MS. JARMAN: So it would be all of the ballots cast, minus the over votes, and under <br />votes and blank votes total for the whole election, regardless of how many people were <br />voted for. <br />MS. NAKAMOTO: Right, right. That is correct. <br />MS. JARMAN: So you actually could do what we asked, with what our current language <br />is, it is possible to do that. Whether we meant it or not, it is possible to do it. That is what <br />I am trying to find out. <br />MS. NAKAMOTO: Kenny said it would be a reasonable interpretation to do it that way. <br />MS. JARMAN: Mr. Chair, may I ask Levi a question? <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Yes. <br />MS. JARMAN: Levi, did you go back and read the minutes to see what our discussion <br />was on this issue? <br />MR. HOOKANO: I did, and that's why I said it appeared to me that this was the <br />Commission's intent; to base if off of the specific office of the official to be recalled. My <br />main concern was that when I looked at the old election result print outs, there wasn't a <br />box that said, "...valid votes cast in the general election." It just said, "...total votes cast <br />in the general election." Total registered, and total cast. And for the offices it did say, the <br />number of votes cast, total and subtracted out the over votes and blank votes. But, as a <br />total number of participants in the whole election, it wasn't broken down that way. <br />MS. JARMAN: Although Pat says you can get that information, right? <br />MS. NAKAMOTO: My recollection is that on the most recent results of votes cast, for a <br />particular race, it will give you the actual votes for each candidate. It will also provide <br />you with over votes and blank votes. That is the information we have for each race. <br />11 <br />