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CHR. HAITSUKA: I have a comment to that. It says, "Civil Service laws are governed by <br />state law." It doesn't seem to me that it should be written that way. I think it should say <br />something like, "Civil Service employment is governed by both state and county law." Al <br />don't know if that is accurate but, I think saying that civil service laws are governed by state <br />laws is not a correct to state that a law is governed by another law. <br />MS. JARMAN: Mr. Chair, maybe we should ask Mike Ben, who made the initial proposal to <br />help us with this. He wanted us to change this because the state laws are laws that the county <br />has to follow. The county cannot do something that is not consistent with the state civil <br />service laws. We don't have separate county civil service laws. That was our understanding, <br />so that is why we drafted it that way. We could say, "Civil Service employment is governed <br />by state law." But, we thought that the county doesn't have the authority to change state civil <br />service law. That is why he wanted to make those changes. Corporation Counsel did send <br />this out to the department heads and there was nothing written back, so we are assuming we <br />are correct. <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: I don't have a problem with doing it that way, either saying, "Civil <br />Service is governed by state law," or "Civil Service is governed by state law." It was just the <br />use of law in there doesn't make sense to me in the context in which it is used. <br />MS. JARMAN: Mr. Chair, we could substitute that first sentence with the sentence in the <br />Commission's summary above which says, "State law is controlling when it comes to civil <br />service laws." Do you like that better? <br />CHR. HAITSUKA: Yes, in fact our secretary just told me the exact same thing. You seem <br />to be thinking on the same wave length. <br />MS. JARMAN: We can thank Amy Self for that recommendation. <br />Chair Haitsuka moved to amend the Education <br />Committee's proposed summary language <br />for CA -4 as stated in Communication 256.4 by <br />changing the first sentence to read, "State law is <br />controlling when it comes to civil service laws." <br />Seconded by Ms. Osborne and carried by the <br />following vote: <br />Ayes: Commissioners Jarman, Kaulukukui, <br />Kealoha, Nahale -a, Osborne, Shumway, <br />Unger and Chair Haitsuka. <br />Noes: None. <br />Absent: Commissioners Fuertes, Honma, and <br />Kawauchi. <br />IN <br />