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CUSHNIE: Who else can illuminate on that? Selling <br /> tickets , actively campaigning? <br /> LUKE: Selling tickets to me would be, again, if <br /> it ' s a private citizen working on his own time, frankly I <br /> don' t see anything wrong with that. And we have guides . <br /> We can' t sell tickets as an employee in a governmental <br /> facility. But it doesn' t say that you can' t sell tickets <br /> as an individual private citizen in your own home or on <br /> the street. And there are laws; and there are guide on <br /> it . <br /> BETHEA: The issue had come up in connection with <br /> the Police Department , and other counties prohibit police <br /> officers from soliciting or participating in political <br /> campaigns in any fashion, even off-duty, etcetera. And <br /> the commission is considering that. And I guess the <br /> question is whether or not it should apply to other <br /> County employees as well. <br /> CUSHNIE: If you felt there was an ethical question <br /> here. <br /> L'ORANGE: Mr. Chairman, I don' t think that ' s a <br /> matter for the Charter. I think that ' s a matter for the <br /> County Council or , you know, it ' s by ordinance <br /> (inaudible) .. It ' s not really constitutional . <br /> BETHEA: Well, if you want to know. . . but I think by <br /> County Charter, there are prohibitions in the other <br /> counties against police officers participating in a <br /> campaign. I suggested it simply because the Police <br /> Department is viewed as being particularly sensitive. At <br /> least in the other charters. I don' t know of any other <br /> public employee which has the same prohibitions. There <br /> may be. But I think that was simply the difference. <br /> CUSHNIE: Thank you. <br /> BETHEA: If I may, I don' t hear public concern so <br /> much about the merit system in selecting people for <br /> jobs. You hear public complaints about civil service <br /> employees and not being able to rid the civil service of <br /> people who aren' t doing their jobs . I assume that ' s all <br /> controlled by state law and there' s nothing that this <br /> Charter Commission could do with regard to that. Is that <br /> correct? <br /> LUKE: That ' s correct. It ' s state law and it ' s also <br /> in the collective bargaining contracts which, if in <br /> conflict with state law, would supersede state law. And <br /> in the contracts , they. . .almost every contract has a <br /> section on discipline. Discipline would include removal <br /> 365 <br />