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• • • TAMA (cont'd.): en with the phroae where I mc ned to You that the initiator ve referendum and reca l be a matter of being also instituted. Many of my presentation viii be that few of these things will • have to coincide together in order to have that type of government we would like to have. Just getting one of . my presentation -- I don't know whether it would be . beneficial to the people or not. • e •� �: Mr. Yamada, If I heard you correctly, you mentioned the fact that all commissions should berve only as advisory, including � .,y the police department. . • YAMADA: • Yes, this is what our Chamber felt it should be. AH CHIN: And that the department heads, as well as the deputies would • be appointed by the mayor.- Who would be under your proposal-- . e . Who would be the policy making body, for example the citizens could go up to? YAMADA: The mayor and his department heads. • .i - CBnIRMAN: Any other question? . . HENRY: One question more. You spoke about the mayor and also about _ , the council. Do .you feel any other officials should be elected? - Today we have the county attorney, the treasurer, the auditor, the clerk. _ r YAMADA:: I think the mayor and the council. I feel, personally, that we maybe should have 5 members rather than 7 mbmbers, but the rest . • of the members felt we should have 7. CHAIRMAN: This is not a question, Mr. Yamada. It is a reaction to a statement you made in your introduction. We have been trying to find interested groups to whom we might send minutes or notices. We might have . overlooked your association. Would you care to receive our minutes? , YAMADA: .We certainly do, this is one of the comments I made at the • very beginning. We receive literature from lots of other dif- ferent areas. We never did receive anything from this commission here. This is • the reason why I made such a statement. It is •difficult to make an intelligent presentation so that we know what we are talking about so that you can also be able to ask intelligent questions. We can't do it unless we are informed what iC going on on the outside. We would appreciate it if we could be included in your mailing list. Mrs. Saito is our secretary. We are in the Hata Building. CHAIRMAN: Any other question? ' . SHIKADA: I noted with special interest your entire presentation, however ....� most of your proposals for the at large council make-up. My question has to do with your organization. Do you in your organization, embody • ' • membership from areas outside the city limits of Hilo? YAMADA: Yes we have, but we dont have too many. We have members in the country, but, I'm sure you'll know what I am talking about, it: is very difficult to/N ple to come in, moreso when they have to pay their dues • attend meetings. Even at a public hearing we don't have enough turn out... We have. . 360 members current with their dues. SHIKADA: • Thank you. • CHAIRMAN: Anypne else? Thank you very much, Mr. Yamada., Any other citizen to the microphone? z , {, d FRED ZINCER�« .Q474: �7,'" �. • 818 Kukulau Road R Hilo Hawaii (Business consultant and Analyst) . . My primary interest in this hearing ond in the form of the new county govern- • ment is adequate control and the coat of operating the county government. I have two propocala, both directed nt the form of county government we might have, and the attempt to offer ideas that will ensure a more efficient low-cost operuLion of ' «id-