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MR. HOHU: We have another recommendation in regards <br /> to a section of the charter under the water commission, Section 8-2(b) <br /> "Adopt rules and regulations which shall have the force and effect <br /> of law relating to the management, control, operation, preservation <br /> and protection of the waterworks of the county. " <br /> If you noticed on Page 31, under Section 13-7, it says, "except as <br /> otherwise provided in this charter. " We look at the charter and we <br /> say that the water department is the only exception, but it goes on <br /> further to say that "all rules and regulations having the force <br /> and effect of law adopted by any board, commission or administrative <br /> head of a department shall be approved by the council and the mayor <br /> before going into effect. " However, . as you know, the Department <br /> of Water Supply must comply with the Charter in regards to public <br /> hearings. They've got to comply with all the provisions of the <br /> administrative procedure act and the water commission must hold <br /> public hearings in all these things. Therefore, the water commission <br /> does hold public hearings and we . have- followed the charter insofar <br /> as public hearings are concerned. We have to follow the adminis- <br /> trative act procedure, then why does it need another body toapprove <br /> the amendments to the law? In addition to that in Section 91-3 (c) , <br /> Revised Laws, of Hawaii, it states that all board of water supply <br /> do not need this requirement. So we have in the past, on advice-' <br /> of counsel, on one occasion, we did not goto the council and the <br /> mayor to get approval of our amended rules and regulations. Then <br /> another counsel says maybe we should get their approval. But in <br /> the end, the existing corporation counsel says that itis not <br /> necessary. So, we' woubd. like to see that (b) under Section 8-2, <br /> the words "without approval of the council or mayor" be added:., <br /> because it is not necessary. <br /> So the new. one would read, if the recommendation is accepted, it <br /> would read as such, adopt rules and regulations .which shall have <br /> the force and effect of ; aw relating to the management, control, <br /> operation, preservation and protection of the waterworks of the <br /> county without the , approval of the council or mayor. V <br /> MRS. IWAMOTO: So another question is, back to <br /> page 31, will there be a change in the wording? <br /> MR. HOHU: No, Because it specifie _ s.,- it. I believe, <br /> it says "except as otherwise provided, " then if it' s written into <br /> Section 8, wouldn't that be an exception? . <br /> MR. SCHUTTE: Mr. .Hohu, this provision Section 13-7 , . <br /> "shall be applicable to service rates for fees, license fees,, nda <br /> other charges" , what you specifically ask is not necessarily the <br /> operational of the fees---? <br /> This particular rule, Section 13-7, pertains only to this pro- <br /> vision of this section shall be applicable to service rates, fees, <br /> licenses, in other. words, I'm reading this, this is the only time <br /> when it involves license fees, rates and other charges. <br /> MR. HOHU:. ' Regarding water rates. Yes, you're <br /> correct. We haven' t checked with our corporation counsel as far <br /> as the interpretation of whether that would include the management <br /> control and operation would include water rates. We haven' t checked <br /> that out, yet. But if we were to amend it, then the rules and <br /> regu ;ations, setting of rates would also have to be amended, too. <br /> - 31 - <br />