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Department of Water was kept separate then the water bond <br /> when it floated would have a better rating because there <br /> would not be any kind of political overtones about it. As you <br /> recall , back in the early '60 ' s anyway, a lot of water bonds <br /> were being floated on the mainland. Mr. Cadinha can remember <br /> some of those water bonds. At that time, the rates were better <br /> if they were kept autonomous. But as I see it now, the way <br /> the county is operating they hardly ever have any money, anyway <br /> for bonds. They haven ' t done a darn thing about changing the <br /> fiscal structure. They 'got -most of their accounts out of the <br /> legislature. The State Legislature floated most of the CIP ' s <br /> here and except for the minor operational system some of the <br /> major ones coming down has been through county bonding system <br /> which is the last two million bucks. <br /> MR. TRULSON: It got a little confusing. I know you stated <br /> earlier here that bonds were purchased for Water Department <br /> waterways. The county purchased bonds for the Board of Water <br /> Supply? <br /> MAYOR MATAYOSHI : No, the county floated bonds. Well , it has <br /> not yet. It has authorization to do so. To float bonds to <br /> develop two million dollars worth of water resource development. <br /> MR. TRULSON: They get the money. Are they not accountable <br /> to the Mayor ' s office or the council ' s office. I don ' t quite <br /> understand how it works. <br /> MAYOR MATAYOSHI : We got it kind of mixed up on this. It is not. <br /> We are talking about operational systems as one. Where the <br /> water rates are set up. This is operational money. Where I <br /> think they report out the financial balance to show income <br /> expense and left over the last one was a few hundred thousand. <br /> Where your income is your operational income of rates of water <br /> comes out. Tn at's it. And in it also you will see some debt <br /> service charges. Now this is to pay back old bonds that were <br /> floated by the state in behalf of the Water Department here. <br /> That is as it was. Okay? As it is now, what I am saying is <br /> subsequent to the last eighteen or twenty years , I guess , I <br /> haven ' t seen any of the Water Department floating its own bonds <br /> to make any capital improvements. Because without water we <br /> can ' t expand. What we are now doing is the county is coming <br /> forth and the County Council approved a two million dollars for a <br /> general obligation bond. Using the whole county' s assets to <br /> float this bond to develop with the help, now, and this is very <br /> important, the contribution of the State. It' s not only the <br /> account of two million, the whole package is about three point <br /> something million. The difference being the state gave the <br /> difference. I think the Governor should have equal credit on <br /> this , too, by the way, because he is kickingit in. You see <br /> the Department of Land and Natural Resources , Water Division <br /> is putting this in. We combined the two and are developing the <br /> -22- <br />