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now and say it again later. I don ' t blink it makes a damn <br /> bit of difference what form you people decide on or what <br /> form we decide on, it is people that makes things tick. You <br /> could have taken the old form of governm'ent that we had and <br /> with different people it could have worked beautifully. You <br /> can take the existing form that we have and with different <br /> people it can work beautifully. It is more people than it <br /> is form 'that really determines the kind of government that <br /> you have. I 'm not knocking anybody, I 'm just stating a <br /> simple fact. <br /> Now, any other questions concerning anytl{in'g <br /> in here? -(Held up the County Charter booklet) <br /> MR. ISHIDA: Regarding the confirmation of <br /> department heads the charter provides for the confirmation <br /> to department head of the corporation counsel and the planning. <br /> department director by both the mayor and the county council. <br /> Was there a specific reason for this? - <br /> MR. KOEHNEN: Yes, we were rather cognizant <br /> of the adminis 'rative versus policy functions. It was felt <br /> that the planning director really represented two bodies. He ';' <br /> represented the administration as an administrator and he <br /> also represented the legislative body in view of the fact that <br /> your county plan is a legislative document. It is the intent , <br /> it is enacted as e'kpress: ng the intent of the legislative body <br /> as to which way the county is going to go. Because of the <br /> fact that he really had the responsibility then for two <br /> functions we did feel that he should be confirmed by the <br /> policy body. He was an administrator and he had to work on <br /> the mayor's team as an administrator. So he had to be accept- <br /> able to the mayor and at the same time he had to also be <br /> • acceptable to the county council because he was in effect <br /> carrying out their legislative intent. That was the rationale;, <br /> as far as the planning director is concerned. What was the <br /> other one that you were asking about? The corporation counsel? <br /> The same reason really. He represented both and we felt that <br /> he should be approved by both. <br /> We didn ' t frankly envision some of the <br /> problems that Councilman Garcia here was just saying. At <br /> that . time we just thought. . .well , too many of us just view <br /> the law. . .and you are a lawyer, Richard, and you know that <br /> too many of us view the law as black or white and as you know <br /> it is mostly shades of grey. And that is the problem you are . <br /> running into now. The thing about Councilman' Garcia's proposal <br /> that struck me was that you are going to have an awful lot <br /> tied up in litigation a lot of times. Because you are going <br /> to have opposing opinions a lot of times if we go with. . . <br /> MR. ISHIDA: Was the proposal made by <br /> Councilman Yamashiro that all department heads be approved <br /> by the council ever proposed in the other charters? <br /> MR. KOEHNEN: When we worked on the charter <br /> of course we were constructing the br;g'anizational thing <br /> department by department and the question came up with every <br /> department should we require confirmation by the council. <br /> -14- <br />