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MR. MOSS: SayT hear that again ...please? <br /> MR. TRULS.ON: By reading it the first time <br /> through, it would appear to me that a possible employee salary <br /> raise, for county employees, may come under referendum without <br /> limitations in Article XL. The limitation of powers. . "any <br /> financial matter relating to public works ; any ordinances <br /> making or repealing any appropriation of money or fixing the <br /> salaries of county employees or officers`®'" Section 11-2 limits <br /> the powers of initiat <veand referendum so as not to effect <br /> that type of thing. If you takeaway all your limitations <br /> would it be possible for a referendum on salaries? The poss- <br /> ibility is there. Though the possibility of it ever happening <br /> might be very slim but without your limitations that possibility <br /> is there. <br /> MR. MOSS: I . guess my not very well thought <br /> out answer- wouldbe if the voters- are eventually paying the <br /> salaries of the administration and its employees , then really, <br /> why shouldn ' t theyhave the last word on how much it is? <br /> MR. ' TRULSON: Don ' t misunderstand me. I`'`m <br /> not 'trying to argue with you. I 'm just kind of playing <br /> devil ' s advocate. Okay, then you have the union coming in with <br /> the union contract of the county 'mployees. So the union ' <br /> contract is negotiated. All of a sudden the voters come up and <br /> says =no by referendum. . <br /> MR. MOSS: It ' s funny. I 've been on both sides <br /> of the fence. I'-ve been a union member and I 've been a manage- <br /> ment member. I can be reasonably objective, I think , about the <br /> question of unions and salaries and contracts. I sometimes <br /> think , right now, that the hand of the administration of the <br /> council needs to be strengthened a little bit more versus the <br /> union. In the light of the last few years and the growing <br /> unionism of the government employees. I 'm not against it. I <br /> am a firm believer that when you get a large corp.oration , you . <br /> practically have to have a union. In the administration of the <br /> county the government is like a large corporation . I 'm not <br /> against unions but I do think that sometimes the scales tip a <br /> little bit too far one way and ��a` iittl e bit too far the other. <br /> The only way you get back--you never get it exactly in balance. <br /> You always 'are tipped a little one way or the other way. <br /> Right now, I 'd like to see it tipped a little bit more on the <br /> +slide of the people who are paying the salaries . <br /> Again, Icome back to the fact that initiative <br /> and referendum is a last ditch procedure. But it is a club you <br /> can hold over people' s heads and say, now let ' s be reasonable <br /> about this and not go whole hog. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: Mr. Moss, on this district repre- <br /> sentation. Your basis is the voter registration. Has your <br /> committee determined that this would be. a valid base upon which <br /> to determine representation? <br /> - 27 - <br />