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MR. ISHIDA: I think the problem is many <br /> people say under collective bargaining they really don ' t know <br /> what the fixed cost is. <br /> MR. PULHAM: I don ' t think that I am saying <br /> or that anybody else is, that you are not going to have a <br /> raise in the budget. That inflation is not going be--whether <br /> it be wages or whatever--is not going to be a factor. It is. <br /> What we are saying is that that particular department head <br /> justifies that money he is spending from zero and not from-- <br /> f it cost him $100;000 last year he starts at a $100, 000 and <br /> goes forward. This is the only thing. If he has ten positions <br /> in his department then let him justify them. We know they are <br /> going to cost more this year than they did last year. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: The problem of the disabled <br /> councilman, do you have any suggestions or plan as to what we <br /> could use to determine when a councilman would meet that <br /> standard whereby a temporary replacement would be appointed? <br /> Or do we just leave it up to the disabled councilman. . . <br /> MR. PULHAM: I can see what you are wrestling <br /> with because you don ' t want to set a standard where you say <br /> someone is able to say, arbitrarily, that someone is disabled. <br /> I think that if you simply said as determined by two-thirds <br /> majority of the remaining councilmen would make that deter- <br /> mination. So ,tliat ,. -in other words, I 'm saying if they say <br /> he has missed ten meetings in a row there has got to be something <br /> wrong with him. You know, let ' s find, out. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: Do you have any personal knowledge <br /> .of any other charter in another county or state government that <br /> has a provision like this? <br /> MR. PULHAM: I do not. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: When we come to elected Charter <br /> Commissions, I think that one of the issues might be the <br /> problem of costs. We would like to keep the costs in the <br /> county down. Do you have any figure in mind as to what the <br /> cost would be under your proposal? The additional cost to <br /> the county if we do have an elected Charter Commission? <br /> MR. PULHAM: I would have to say, I don ' t. <br /> I think that you might be in a position to determine how many <br /> meetings you feel it would take over this two year period of <br /> time to adequately do the job and given a per diem of $30 or <br /> $40 per day, whatever you think is adequate and come up with a <br /> figure on that as the cost of it. But I don ' t see that as <br /> being particularly prohibitive. It certainly would be less <br /> costly than a special election which we talked about earlier. <br /> It wouldnIt be nearly as much. <br /> MR. ISHIDA: Another point. In the present <br /> Honolulu Charter there is the provision for a creation of a <br /> reapportionment commission that is supposed to meet in 1981 . <br /> - 24 - <br />