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MR. CADINHA: In your alternative (b) , wiping <br /> out the commission entirely which you said that you may be in <br /> favor of or feel more disposed toward. . .Would the police chief <br /> be an elective office or appointed under that thesis of yours? <br /> MR. AUSTIN: I haven ' t given that particular <br /> aspect a lot of thought but I would say he should be elected. <br /> I would favor an elective person but I have a fear of politics <br /> entering the police department and it is pretty difficult to <br /> have a police chief electedoand not have a political support <br /> behind him. These people, such 'as police chiges have a great <br /> deal of latitude as they see their job and if they should be <br /> induced to think that being lenient on a policeman or a <br /> violator from a certain area representing a certain union or <br /> group because it has some political bearing 'on his reelection, <br /> then T+[i,woux_l2djbe very much fearful of that situation. On the <br /> other hand, can you really rely on. the judgment of a mayor to <br /> pick a good chief of police, the best that can be had? I frankly <br /> don ' t know which is the best way. Each has something •to be said <br /> for it and something against it. <br /> MR. CADINHA: Thank you. <br /> MR. TRULSON: We have had a great deal of <br /> testimony on the last section under the Police Department , <br /> Chapter 2, page 17. That is , "The police department shall come <br /> under the general supervision and control of the mayor. " I <br /> would like your thoughts on that, sir. Do you feel this should <br /> be retained in the charter? <br /> MR. AUSTIN: ' It' s a sad situation when the mayor <br /> and the chief of police are at odds. We've seen that ir some <br /> mainland cities and it ' s frustrating to the public, as well . <br /> It ' s true that if there was a line of supervision of the chief <br /> of police under the mayor' s office that there wouldn 't be any <br /> decided differences of opinion because they just wouldn ' t exist <br /> under that condition. But would it be a healthy thing, is <br /> another question. <br /> MR. TRULSON: The testimony we have had from <br /> the chief of police and from the police commission is to delete <br /> that section from the charter. That is some of the testimonW <br /> that we have had. In other words , to make the police commission <br /> and the police chief, in effect, that more powerful without <br /> being answerable to the mayor. <br /> MR. AUSTIN : If that were done, if that section <br /> were eliminated then I would feel the police commission , and a <br /> strong one, would be an absolute necessity. Otherwise, you <br /> would have a police chief with no one to ride herd on him or <br /> to advise him, even, on matters of policy. He might be left <br /> out in left field and calling the shots wrong and no one could <br /> take any corrective action. <br /> MR. TRULSON: I believe some of the testimony <br /> they have stated is that the police chief feels like he has, <br /> in effect, two bosses. The police commission selects him but <br /> he is answerable tothe mayor. The mayor selects the police <br /> commission. He feels that perhaps there is only one boss , the <br /> police commission, not both. <br /> -10 <br />