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CHAIRMAN ISHIDA: One at-large? How many districts? <br /> If this more or less covers what has been proposed, why don 't <br /> we look over the present system to begin. . . <br /> MR. OMONAKA: There is one other item that has to do <br /> with the temporary vacancy. Do you want some discussion on <br /> that also? <br /> CHAIRMAN ISHIDA: Why don ' t we take that up later. <br /> Why don ' t we restrict, right now, to maybe numerical as far as <br /> the number of districts, or how we will plan the districting. <br /> And then, thereafter, we can take the other areas in Article III. <br /> I think there are some other aspects in the article we have to <br /> cover, too, but at least now why don ' t we restrict ourselves to <br /> the number of council people and the manner of their representa- <br /> tion. . .whether it be at-large or district and how many districts. <br /> MRS. KOBAYASHI : Has counsel checked into whether the <br /> alternatives are constitutional or not? Because at one hearing <br /> somebody said that if we accept anything other than the present <br /> one, it may not be constitutional. <br /> MR. ODA: As I said, previously, the basic problems <br /> with the at-large system of the court cases that I could find, <br /> was the cases that had ruled that, primarily, the at-large <br /> systems were not per se unconstitutional . They were, in many, <br /> many cases on the mainland, used in a discriminatory manner to <br /> prevent minority groups from exercising political rights. In <br /> other words, as you know, if you take this county and say, if <br /> you prevent. . .if there was a proponent for districting--district <br /> representation, let' s say, from Puna.. .and Puna, let' s say, <br /> just theoretically, was made up largely of Mexican Americans. <br /> and you didn ' t want a Mexican American to be elected to the <br /> county coancil what you do is say everybody should be elected <br /> at-large, from the whole island, because you know that the <br /> majority of the votes from the whole island are far in excess <br /> of those in Puna. So nobody from Puna could ever-get elected <br /> unless you set up a districting scheme whereby one candidate <br /> from Puna runs at-large, that kind of thing. <br /> Generally speaking, the courts tend to favor <br /> representation by district wherever possible and need not be <br /> numerically one-man, one-vote. They don ' t necessarily condemn <br /> at-large, either, so long as it is not used as a basis of <br /> discriminating against a certain group of voters, whether they <br /> be racial or 'otherwise. <br /> The present setup that we have in the charter, in <br /> terms of everybody running at-large is not, I wouldn ' t say it <br /> is illegal. I think it can stand. It would probably be legal, <br /> let me put it in a positive way. But variations of that are <br /> also possible. The "example I gave the last time, where in one <br /> Supreme Court case they had one representative councilman <br /> representirng218 voters, residents rather, and another person <br /> had 4,000 people and the Supreme Court upheld that. Clearly, <br /> not according to the one-man, one-vote principle. But they <br /> look at the overall scheme of things not just numbers. <br /> -2- <br />