2018-07-02 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – July 2, 2018 That confuses me because what is the definition of culture – cause in Hawaii it is a cultural history of hunting and gathering in the land and that seems to be getting wiped off the map and that’s not your kuleana but that’s a concern – Why is that aspect of culture being ignored? LS: I’m actually born and raised here in Hawaii and my understanding of cultural rights – that they were pretty much managed by the konohiki and within the Park, I mentioned specifically the number of ahupuaa – cause there are quite a number of them – and it would have been – most of that land that we acquired was basically crown lands so it was not in – necessarily in the hands of the makaainana and it was managed. NP: Crown land is land that belongs to the people. LS: Right and it was given as it was – as I explained – that the Territory of Hawaii made that gift to the federal government to protect the area of Kilauea and I think in today’s world one of the things that we do at the Park when we have conflicts and particularly as we go through the National Historic Preservation Act – we have kupuna that come from both districts and we talk to them and discuss with them the issue at hand and how do we approach something like this particular issue that you have presented to me and I would refer to them and have that discussion with them. There are some things, as I said, we can do other things we can’t do. And traditionally, the pigs and other animals that were brought to Hawaii were managed in much more – like as in animal husbandry so to maintain them- the fact that there were so many cattle that really damaged this island and, of course, the pigs are doing, some of that as well and we have to – we have to find a balance. NP: Balance is good – about the complete abolishment is the question. TL: Can I relate an anecdote of my mother. My mother – used to spend days up at the Volcano and she loved the Thurston Lava Tube and many of those people were her friends – but she used to like to go out and do \[sounds like tree\] things for petroglyphs and things like this and she got really disappointed as time went on because the petroglyphs – the rocks that the petroglyphs were carved into often had cracked and she’d find weeds or something growing through the things so the thought was – and then this is also because they have been a massive eradication of goats that was up there as well and my mother’s not a hunter – my dad wasn’t – my mother wasn’t – but she – out of that conversation that she had \[unclear\] it seemed like that because there was no animals eating the weeds and all of this kind of stuff it allowed these things to, you know, the grass to grow and cracked these rocks and so forth 7