2018-08-13 Hearing Transcript - Piilani Partners LLC REZ 727 SMA 18-070 REVOCATION SMA 334

Home

that the estimated sustainable yield of that aquifer is like about 147 million gallons per day. And, then the current and planned uses should be no more than 5 million gallons per day, so essentially, you have like about 143, 142 million gallons per day. That's the surplus. With this project, the project would use only .20 million gallons per day, so that would be less than .2 percent of the overall aquifer. So, at the end of the day, if it's very successful, everything goes according to, you know, plan, then the balance of the aquifer would still be 141.8 million gallons per day. That's a very substantial amount. CLARKSON: Are there any questions from the Commission? IKEDA: Yes, I'd like to ask Mr. Fuke. Mr. Fuke, it's in the tsunami zone so how do they, gonna prepare for that? FUKE: Yeah, actually, it's in a tsunami evacuation zone. According to the FIRM Map, the Flood Insurance Rate Map, the site is designated Zone 'X" So, if it were like designated like Zone "VE" you know "X" or whatever, then structurally they would have to make the necessary changes to accommodate the structural requirements of Zone "VE" or Zone "XE" or Zone "VE" or "AE." In this case, unless I've read the map wrong, it is Zone 'X" IKEDA: Can I ask another question to the other gentleman? You know, like you said, there's no chance of any contaminant going into the aquifer because, like I said, I know Canec was right next by the Wailoa River, and they used to use arsenic to make the Canec, so that was a big concern of mine. NANCE: Yeah, the well itself, the annular space between the casing and the borehole will be filled with cement entirely all the way down to where the fresh water zone is, so potential contamination of prior land uses around won't be a problem for the water being derived by the well. CLARKSON: I have a couple of questions. What was the reason for the drilling of the test well by the State? Why were they interested in that aquifer? NANCE: They weren't interested in that aquifer. What they were trying to do is figure out the stratigraphy to great depth so they instituted this purely scientific program. They drilled another one over near the airport that was a wildly flowing 2,000 -gallon a minute free-flowing well. They had no idea that they were going to encounter this aquifer when they started drilling. It was a complete surprise, a pleasant one, but a complete surprise. But, they're really just trying to peel back in geologic time to see what the stratigraphy looked like. So, they've got, since then, they've done a couple up in the Saddle Road area, Pohakuloa, and I mean, it's an incredible program to open up knowledge, but it was not seeking an aquifer. It was purely geologic information. CLARKSON: Thank you very much. And, the other question I had was you mentioned that they have to get a permit from DLNR to drill the well in the first place, and I just wanted to ask because you obviously have a lot of experience with water supply projects. The public trust 10V1111.11 1.1