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Mr. Goodenow: <br />Anything else on this first rules 2 and 3 that anyone wants to...? <br />Alright next moving on to the next one...4 informal advisory <br />opinions. <br />11:35 a.m. b. Correspondence dated August 7, 2018 from Vice -Chair Goodenow. <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Now I did pass out this sheet just earlier comparing Hawai`i <br />County and Maui County. Maui County the big difference that the <br />other counties do is that they separate out complaints from <br />advisory...you know opinions about like can I do this right...and <br />it's much clearer...I thought. But otherwise you can see it's very <br />similar there's a few little differences. For example 1 the legal <br />chair and legal counsel right make a recommendation if they <br />wanna just reject it. They have a decision and then that's reviewed <br />but it's not like it's a hearing where people come and then you <br />know it's just kind of reviewing the decision. Another...a <br />difference that I think maybe we do is good is that and I wanted the <br />staff's input on this. When we get a petition right...the board and <br />chair their first...they kind of decide. They send out the notice <br />right to the respondent already. They don't wait. You send that <br />out right away so the respondent knows hey there's a meeting on <br />this day and I'm gonna come and. Is that correct? Cause Maui <br />what they do is they make a recommendation how to process it and <br />then the whole board looks at it and then they decide okay we want <br />to have these witnesses or we're gonna send the copy of the <br />complaint to the respondent and redact it or don't redact it. They <br />do all that as a board. Good thing is the board does that...the bad <br />thing is does slow it down one meeting. You have meeting just for <br />that. I think our practice you do a lot before a meeting right. <br />What do you do? <br />Well actually we haven't been doing that. I...when I first came on <br />board I thought that was going to happen but it hasn't been <br />happening I think it's our legal counsel and staff because nobody <br />talks to me prior to the agenda being issued or anything sent out <br />which I thought was going to happen to be honest because I <br />thought that was the procedure but then when it didn't <br />happen... and it was working you know we didn't have any <br />problems with it... so my understanding was that we had legal <br />counsel and staff look at the petitions and if there's a question then <br />I guess you would contact me but so far we haven't had that being <br />the case and so that the agenda is generated and I don't really have <br />any input at this point. Or I haven't had the input...that I know of. <br />27 <br />