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<br />FUKE: I can’t really say offhand whether, you know, like what the Formerly, FUDS, right, F-U- <br />D-S, whether the FUDS clearance was done on this property. I can’t really speak to that. But I <br />know that the U.S. Corps of Engineers has been systematically going through the whole area to <br />have it all cleaned up. <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: I’m not sure if this is a question for you or not, Mr. Fuke, but I was wondering <br />how it was determined that regarding the Hawaiian hoary bats and the limitations of when trees <br />can be trimmed. Is that a standard County — <br /> <br />FUKE: Maybe I can kind of like — <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: — time frame? <br /> <br />FUKE: We didn’t represent that, but I think that what the staff in their diligence, you know, they <br />looked at the EIS that was prepared for the Daniel K. Inouye Highway Extension, you know, <br />which would take it from the existing, you know, where Saddle Road ends right now all the way <br />down to the Queen Ka‘ahumanu Highway, and the portion of it kind of like would affect the <br />subject property, so within that area you would have areas where you have like trees or <br />vegetation. Relative to this site, however, it’s pretty much denuded. So I think that this is <br />where, you know, that condition was kind of, the genesis of that condition. However, as a <br />practical matter, because the site is relatively barren of any activity, I don’t think that, you know, <br />that would be very, would be problematic for the applicant. I noticed, however, that like in many <br />of the, on other applications, the State almost routinely has made that kind of comment that, you <br />know, there is this potential for a hoary bat, there might be potential for the Hawaiian owl, you <br />know, or the hawk, and so they have like a standard mitigation that they always offer, and it <br />wouldn’t surprise me that over time this becomes like a standard kind of condition that’s <br />recommended by the staff. <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: One last question, on the maps I see that the extension of the highway is <br />supposed to come right, it looks as though, through the property? <br /> <br />FUKE: Yeah, so, I think it looks like it would affect almost like a one-third, if not a one-half, of <br />the property. But what the State did in its corridor study was like, I don’t know how many feet, <br />but it’s really, really wide, so they needed, as part of the Environmental Impact process, they <br />have to look at all the different options, and so the evaluation area is wider than the actual <br />right-of-way. I think the right-of-way ultimately would be no more than 120 feet. <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: Thank you very much. <br /> <br />FUKE: Sure. <br /> <br />YATES: I have a question. Also, in regards to clean-up, should, I mean we all hope that they <br />don’t, once they do get into it, but, should they decide to leave, is there any accommodations or <br />allowances as to clean-up and, you know, and those kind of -. See, my, my concern is, you <br />6 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />