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here although, trust me, they've been vociferous in their opposition to some of the DLNR <br />issues that have been pending on their table regarding their, their subsistence fishing, and <br />how we're to handle and preserve our near shore resources. I have been a persistent <br />advocate as those of you who know regarding aquarium fishing and the need for self <br />regulation, and the need for better relationships with DLNR and the West Hawai'i <br />Fisheries agencies and organizations. And I'm hoping in some way, shape or form that <br />when this becomes law, this particular Bill is passed finally, and we do have a <br />commission that this Council and you, the constituents throughout the island, don't miss <br />the point that this is not simply a hunting issue. And although the hunters maybe have <br />brought this forward and I'm sorry to think I, in all the welter of controversy that we had <br />over the aquarium issue about a year, a year and half ago, I didn't think enough to try to <br />make this happen long before this time. I don't want the idea of aquatic life and our <br />responsibility as a County for the preservation of our near shore marine resources to be <br />overlooked. And on, up until this time they have been. I am particularly discouraged <br />sometimes when I speak to Administration officials because I was beaten on the head and <br />shoulders a little bit by the, by a member, a, a particular member of the Administration <br />last year when I was accused of interfering with a State issue and wasting Council's time. <br />I, I don't believe that. When we talk about hunting and fishing rights I believe it's very <br />important that this Council takes a strong and an involved approach in how this is to be <br />done. And I'm happy to think that Bill 260 at least provides us with the initial steps in <br />that effort. So please hunters, I have nothing against hunting, please take me out and let <br />me go with you some time, but please don't overlook the fact that we have a very strong <br />constituency as well as a very strong responsibility to make certain that our near shore <br />marine sources are protected and are used in the manner in which they're supposed to be. <br />Thank you. [applause] <br />» Thank you Council Member Hoffmann. Should Bill 260 be approved, we look at it as <br />a, being a nexus for your aquatics and fisheries issues. And we'll certainly consider that <br />at that time. Thank you again. Council Member Ford, you have the floor. <br />» Thank you. And Mr. Ikeda will be after me? <br />» Thank you. <br />» Okay. Because we never know who's going to watch the video on television at any <br />time, I'm going to go on the record again with my position. First I'll tell you that I am a <br />conservationist. I am a preservationist. I am an environmentalist. And I don't take any <br />offense at somebody who wants to object to me on that basis. However, I also come <br />from a hunting family; both sides in my family, and my husband's family also hunt. Or, <br />or at least used to when they were younger. I believe there's a middle ground here <br />between those who want to fence everything in sight and those who need to have <br />everything open for hunting. I believe there's a middle ground. And I'm hoping this <br />20 <br />