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everything, but if we don’t have a way to enforce it, then why don’t we just throw the rules <br />away. Right now, the State of Hawai‘i loses a ton of money, a ton of money, it’s not small <br />amounts of money, a ton of money to people that just don’t pay their taxes. And that’s what <br />concerns me. We are going to have this nice legislation and everything, and all those people that <br />are compliant and do pay their taxes are going to sit there and put in their permits, they are going <br />to get the okay, and they are going to go out and they are going to have, you know, a compliant <br />place; that the people that aren’t are, continue to not pay taxes and continue to not register these. <br />And when complaints are made, which I have known people have come in and said these people <br />are non-residents, they come back, they are still resident on their property taxes. So I don’t know <br />what’s going on, but I hope that at the end of the day we at least benefit from having short-term <br />rentals as community, that we start collecting the taxes. <br /> <br />The other issue is Queensland, New Zealand; you probably have never been there, but let me tell <br />you about their rental situation. Businesses buy houses to house their employees, because <br />everybody is on Airbnb and every available space is now a short-term rental. That address your <br />limit on short-term rentals right there. If you want to look it up, go right ahead. They have, <br />that’s their issue there. So if we are looking at freeing up space for kids to buy a house here, <br />own a house here, we are not addressing that with the short-term rental. In regards to someone <br />building an ‘ohana on their, on their thing to give a short, or a longer term rental, look at the <br />money. If you are making more money on a short-term rental with less stress, you are going to <br />go with the short-term rental; you are not going to go for a long-term rental. Maybe looking into <br />the benefits of easiness of people will be making more money on a long-term rental versus a <br />short-term rental. Because if you look at the money, that’s where the people are going to go. <br /> <br />C. THOMPSON: My name is Charla Thompson. I live in Kona and I’ve lived here 33 years, <br />and I remember Kona the way it used to be, too. So as a way to disclosure, how many people on <br />this Commission are either property managers or realtors? Can I ask that? <br /> <br />UNGER: I’d rather not have a question-and-answer period — <br /> <br />C. THOMPSON: Okay — <br /> <br />UNGER: — if you just stick to your testimony. <br /> <br />C. THOMPSON: — it’s not a question-and-answer period. I’m just wondering who I’m talking <br />to because it would be, it would be helpful for me to know whom I’m addressing. <br /> <br />UNGER: Yeah, that’s fine — <br /> <br />C. THOMPSON: Okay, not allowed, okay, that’s fine. I looked up zoning en.wikipedia, and it <br />defines zoning this way: “The primary purpose of zoning is to segregate uses that are thought to <br />be incompatible. In practice, zoning also is used to prevent new development from interfering <br />with existing uses and to preserve the character of a community.” Our city planners created <br />zones to allow for businesses thrive together and to protect residential neighborhoods from the <br />hazards and interruptions they would bring to family neighborhoods. Resort districts were <br />created to accommodate the lifestyle of vacationers, realizing the mistake it would be to mix <br />28 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />