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HEIT: Just to clarify. The State Department of Land and Natural Resources has expended funds <br /> to date. We've provided over $500,000 in studies on three properties in the Banyan Drive area. <br /> The three that, one of which we're talking about today. So it's not like we don't have any skin in <br /> the game; we do. We have over half a million dollars that we've put into doing studies <br /> including, you know, sea level rising, the evaluation or the proposed use of the existing <br /> structures. <br /> TANIGUCHI: I agree, and maybe you're doing the right thing, but the, to do it right you gotta, <br /> to me, you gotta get the master plan. And all that master plan will take care of all, not take care, <br /> but consider all the sea level studies that you guys are—so it's not dollars not spent for anything. <br /> There's a purpose for that. But when are we going to put it together? To come up with a plan <br /> taking all these different discoveries so far, you know? You know what I'm saying? You got <br /> the sea level plan, so what's, what does that do? What does the sea level rise plan that you <br /> commissioned, gives us good information, but what does it do? Nothing I think, as far as I'm <br /> concerned. <br /> YEE: You know I'll agree with Gordon that DLNR has consistently testified to, through <br /> testimony, on the bills that they've certainly put up a half million dollars into Banyan Drive over <br /> a period of time here. Again, what does that mean if you fix a house and the roof is still leaking, <br /> it doesn't matter how much money you've poured in at that point, you still got a leaky roof and <br /> who needs to fix it? Certainly you can debate that. And so I would get to that point of, great you <br /> spent the half million, Gordon, I think I know Gordon well enough that I could at least throw the <br /> challenge out here that, you know, we can acknowledge that but right now we're stuck in this <br /> place where we need more and how do we come up with it. I don't expect to solve that today, <br /> but Mr. Taniguchi certainly asking the same questions that we've been kind of pondering for a <br /> while now. <br /> SELF: Just to get back to what Representative Onishi was asking, I have to point out that under <br /> Chapter 53, HRS 53, you know 53-5 states the powers and duties of the Agency. Well, one of <br /> the things, in addition to a master plan, is that plans have to be prepared for and assist in <br /> relocation of persons displaced from this urban renewal in that area. So a lot of that depends on <br /> what happens with the leases because I believe that some of those, some of the buildings <br /> probably have Section 8 housing. So that all has to be planned for too. So it's not just a master <br /> plan and an EIS, there's gonna have to be relocation of persons who are losing their homes. <br /> TANIGUCHI: May I ask a question? The structure between Mr. Inouye's property and the old <br /> Travel Lodge structure, what's happening there? There are people living there, right? That they <br /> think they own the premises? <br /> HEIT: You're thinking of the Bayview Banyan property. <br /> TANIGUCHI: I don't know the names. <br /> HEIT: That's a long term lease. You know, it's strictly a rental unit. Strictly a rental unit. <br /> TANIGUCHI: No, the other one that'sI thought there's another one where people think that <br /> they own the property <br /> Page 8 of 19 <br /> Banyan Drive Hawaii Redevelopment Agency <br /> September 24,2018 Minutes <br />