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charter and we could still do all that. I'd be a little leery of adding <br />in these...you know...we don't have all that other contract stuff in <br />the charter that's more for the code in my opinion. And it might be <br />in another section of the charter for...under financial operations or <br />something. I don't really...I think our code would cover that <br />situation of a quid pro quo or something. I'll just throw that out <br />there. <br />Ms. Kahakalau: Thank you Mr. Goodenow. Judge Wiseman. <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Mr. Adams: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />I would just point out the 14 cases that my colleague pointed out. <br />We were made aware of them because of a challenge to one of <br />those contracts. And that's how the system works. I mean if <br />something...if it smells, someone's gonna smell and bring it to <br />someone's attention, most likely us, so that's...that's my position. <br />Yeah so...I read both concerns because I was asked to do so. But <br />I'm also of the opinion that the special contract individual, because <br />of the nature of their work, should really not have to go through an <br />extra step when lives could be at matter or property could be in <br />danger and etc. So that's my personal opinion as well. But it is <br />something you know if the Charter Commission feels that that's in <br />their area and they would like to discuss it you know, it did come <br />up as a suggestion by one of our members. <br />Thank you I mean I appreciate the discussion in the different areas. <br />Do we have any other wisdom to say? <br />Well no. Well that was Rick. For me, the one thing I wanted to <br />talk about was...well the most important would be...and I don't <br />know if we have to do it but if you look at section 14-6 it gives <br />penalties, failure to comply with provisions of the charter <br />there...shall constitute a cause for suspension, removal from office <br />or employment, or other such penalty as the council may prescribe <br />by ordinance. So it sounds kind of open. The reason I bring it <br />up...doing civil fines...and I notice in the other counties' charters. <br />Let me just read to you from Honolulu... Make sure I get this <br />right. Honolulu. They put in penalties. "The failure to comply <br />with or any provision of the standards of contact established by <br />this article of the charter or by ordinance shall be grounds for <br />impeachment of elected officers and for the removal from office or <br />from employment of all other officers, employees. The appointing <br />authority may upon the recommendation of the ethics commission <br />reprimand, put on promotion, demote, suspend, discharge"...for <br />violating right? "The ethics commission may also impose civil <br />9 <br />