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AGUINALDO: And, as far as—you know, I've been to that feed shop when our, my egg layers <br />needed feed. I didn't want to go to town and, you know, it was there. So, all of my life, 46 years <br />in Pahoa, never did have one feed shop. Never have nothing for farmers. Ourselves, we lost our <br />farm in Kapoho, you know. Cannot help. Move on with life. But, across the street on the makai <br />side, there's a lot of ag farm there we currently, you know, I got secured a lease, 22-1/2 acres to <br />farm again papaya, bananas, whatever we gotta do. But, you know, as far as that there, there is a <br />big track of ag farm in the back. So, I see your point of serving our community as far as the <br />feed. You know, everybody get cattle and what not. And, again, yes, in our, you know, our <br />Director, you know, Mr. Yee, gotta do what he gotta do. It's understandable. It's playing across <br />the board. But, as far as what you do, you know my question is, if this application, we can go <br />round and round or whatever, what would happen if never did work out. You know, that's my <br />question to you. <br />QUINN: What would happen is after 19 years of serving the community, and it has been a <br />privilege, Gilbert, I promise you that, I'm not bankrolling nothing—if it was denied, I would <br />wait about four months or so, I'd put a for sale sign on that lot, and Pahoa Feed & Fertilizer <br />would close down, and that would be it. There would be no feed and fertilizer store like there <br />has been the past 19 years, and people would have to start driving to Hilo to purchase those <br />products. You had mentioned cattle. A lot of the farmers raising cattle, horses, ranches, they do <br />not shop at Pahoa Feed & Fertilizer. We are a mom and pop store. We deal primarily for <br />residential people. People that have large volumes of animals, large farms of papaya or whatever <br />vegetables. They will definitely go to Hilo where they can buy the merchandise wholesale. We <br />are a retail operation. We are not a wholesaler. We've never competed with the other operations <br />around. It will kill a business fast. You cannot compete price wise out in Pahoa. <br />But, back to your question, we would just close up. Probably close up by I would say <br />December -January, early next year and then we would close up. <br />AGUINALDO: So, there's a lot of consideration because, you know, with the event—now <br />going back to lava, a lot of businesses has closed and, you know, Pahoa is my home. You know, <br />it's, it was always my home and, you know, positive stuff Not competing—you're not <br />competing with nobody. Positive solution you find, it's not like we all competing with the same <br />feed shop or whatever you want to call it, but you were there first to serve our community on a <br />positive way. Whatever recommendation, whatever this going plan out, I highly recommend a <br />right -in, right -out. The question I have is back on the photos, where you guys brought in the car <br />as far as access wise, so did the State grant that access or that was an access. You see the <br />pavement? You know, they paved it. <br />QUINN: That? <br />AGUINALDO: Go back, the slide—yeah. <br />QUINN: That piece of pavement was there— <br />KERN: Use your microphone. <br />EXHIBIT E <br />12 <br />