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there were people that laid down gravel, and it's basically, yeah, it always was open I guess for <br />anybody to use, but at the moment, it's being used with the Catholic Church. <br />KAY: Yes. <br />AGUINALDO: So, if there is, you know, gotta, if you need easement, I guess you know they <br />would have to discuss things with Sacred Heart, maybe? <br />KAY: And the other property owners that it crosses through if it's <br />AGUINALDO: Right— <br />KAY: Yeah. I just want to see—so that's generally coming through here, so maybe it's just the <br />one property owner from Pahoa Village Road. It could just be Catholic Church. <br />AGUINALDO: No, there's a loop around there, is actually, you see that loop, you know, I call <br />`em tin shack. <br />KAY: Yeah, yeah. <br />AGUINALDO: But, that loop there, I think, you know, I cannot recall if County maintains that <br />or if that was private. There's a private road that the community kind of put together and, you <br />know, have access over there. So, as far as that there, is being used, you know day-to-day. <br />KAY: Yeah, I'm told that's a private road. <br />AGUINALDO: Yeah. <br />CLARKSON: If there are no further questions from the Commission, will the Applicant and/or <br />their representative please come forward? <br />KERN: Good morning, Mr. Chair. <br />CLARKSON: Good morning. I'd like to swear in—do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on <br />this matter before the Commission today? <br />QUINN: Yes, sir. <br />[Mr. Kern was previously sworn in for another application.] <br />CLARKSON: Thank you. Would either one of you introduce yourself and proceed. <br />KERN: Sure, I'll start. Zendo Kern, planning consultant, representing the Applicant, Mr. <br />William Quinn. This one is obviously a bit challenging, so I'd like to first start by hoping that <br />you all keep an open mind because this is a bit of an explanation, a bit of a story. <br />EXHIBIT E <br />6 <br />