2018-11-13 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – November 13, 2018 water – you going mess up the eco-system, yeah, so you take the grazing animals out – I mean, I believe the mandate for the federals or whatever, you know, you gotta do ‘em or they going suing the State or whatever they going do but somebody’s got to talk to these guys up there – let ‘em know that this is one slaughter. TN: But that’s not management – if it’s a slaughter it’s not management. WK: Yeah, it’s not, you know, cause from what – all that studies heard – there’s the Hofflinger study that he did on these birds up there – that the sheep can co-exist with these birds and the decline since ’87 is worse now than was in ’87 when had sheep. So I don’t understand what’s going on. Who gonna listen? I broken hearted watch this mountain go down \[unclear\] for my father, my grandfather guys hunt up there and I watch... TN: Just, please, Wallace, if you could do us a favor when you go hunting every weekend for the birds – video tape your guys self just like Ryan Kohatsu had done. You know he helped us a lot by videotaping what he does up on the Mauna. And if you could get Kaohe area and the tall grass and all of that thick brush, you know, we have to show them what is management. You know, they not born and raised here these people. WK: Right. TN: Who come here and work and they want to bring conservations here. They don’t have a full understanding of what you understand. What my uncle folks have understand what hunting was like and we, you know, there was enough to feed the whole camp. WK: No more and you know was – I not rich like everybody – we not – me and my partner guys we’re not rich – at the end of the month when no more too much money or whatever – the smoke meat whatever was always ready – my father guys always had that – my family had that – I go up Mauna Kea now and it’s a sad thing because I can drive around the whole mountain and see nothing – sometimes not even birds – you know what I mean – I look up there and I tell myself, wow, my kids – what they going – my kids – I planning to teach them how for hunt how to do that – where I going take ‘em. Where I going take them to hunt? Especially rifle areas. Archery areas too, now, what happened to kipuka? People could go – one archery area – one nother archery area gone from us. Rifle areas – where we going go? No sense go Mauna Kea – no more nothing – you know what I mean. I don’t mean for bring this all down on everybody... 21