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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – November 13, 2018 <br /> <br />TN: And do they know why there is the decrease of the palila bird in spite of their <br />efforts there is still a decrease? <br /> <br />KS: I haven’t – do they know why – I haven’t seen anything with an exact why – <br />these things take time, though, and so, I don’t know why. <br /> <br />JO: Jim O’Keefe... Who is the program director MTFRP? <br /> <br />KS: Name is Chauncey Kala Lindsey Ah Sing. He goes by Kala. <br /> <br />NP: I’ve read a few reports of an analysis of stomach content of sheep and goats <br />and it seems their primary diet is grass and so the fenced areas – all the <br />eradication – removal of all the game animals – lotta grass – so and I know I <br />asked you this question before but in the long term I’m just wondering what <br />kind of results you’re seeing with your methods of dealing with the grass – <br />keeping it from growing over the native endangered species and, I guess, it’s <br />herbicide and so it’s gonna be a herbicide control? <br /> <br />KS: We don’t really manage the grass – that’s why the grass is as long as it is – <br />we do a little bit of mowing. We – any herbicide that like Kala guys use on <br />their project would be around areas that they’ve out planted so that project – <br />the Mauna Kea Forest Restoration Project – they have two mitigation areas <br />right? They have the old Lau lease and then they have Puu Mali – which are <br />areas that they are doing restoration efforts, right, so they’re out planting and <br />trying to restore the forest in those areas. They do use around their out <br />plantings some herbicides to keep grasses down around the plants that they <br />put in the ground... <br /> <br />NP: Right. That’s what I’m talking about... <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, but anything like large scale to control grasses on a larger scale than <br />just around the individual plants we don’t do... <br /> <br />NP: In the fenced areas. OK... <br /> <br />KS: It’s anything really that’s herbicide stuff is for the out plantings it’s not the – <br />like I said – it’s not a larger scale trying to get rid of grasses. <br /> <br /> It’s just on whatever actions they’re doing to try to restore the forest. <br /> <br />NP: Which you gotta keep doing it cause, right, so, so, it’s just around all the <br />native plants you do Roundup and so like how are those native plants <br />looking? Is the Roundup helping them? <br /> <br />25 <br /> <br /> <br />