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Smith: I guess my comment to that is, we have to make a decision based on your <br />information in front of us today. But, should this Licensee have an issue in the future and <br />they've not taken corrective action that remedies a solution that works then I think waiving <br />the second thousand isn't warranted at all. <br />Gonzalez: You may even be in the realm of suspension of the license. <br />Giffin: The license? <br />Gonzalez: Yes. <br />Fuke: Gerri, any questions? <br />Giffin: No. <br />Fuke: I think with the first two violators you can see that they're making some attempt to <br />rectify the violation and passing it down so that the overall "culture" begins to shift. In this <br />situation, the fact that the same individual is the one who did the infractions brings to mind <br />what kind of culture we are trying to promote in this particular instance. It's too bad that <br />the Licensee or at least the employee that was responsible for that specific violation is not <br />here to at least provide some explanation. I can totally understand and agree with what <br />Riley is saying. I think indirectly, you're saying is it necessarily fair that we assess the <br />penalty similar to the previous one. I'm beginning to have some reservation about that. <br />Can we have a discussion? <br />Giffin: I agree with that and as a result, I'm hesitant to even say yes, this is okay. If we <br />continue along that path, what change are we talking about? Like Sid said earlier, at least <br />with the first two agenda items there was an acknowledgment of responsibility, corrective <br />actions were taken to the employee that specifically affected the employee financially, as <br />did with Mr. Nguyen, the second agenda item. I may be looking at it incorrectly so please <br />correct me on that. <br />Fuke: It's like a person who speeds and will speed forever and he's lucky if he can afford <br />to pay the tickets. <br />Takase: We don't know what happened to this employee. If that's going to be the <br />rationale, we can try to find out. I think the fine we imposed was standard. Without any <br />explanation, that's what they were going to get. Mr. Nguyen appeared here today and <br />seemed to take his punishment. <br />Giffin: Yes, and he was remorseful, too. <br />Takase: From the Department side, the penalty is pretty much the standard --$2,000 with <br />$1,000 suspended without any explanation, without anything. Maybe we should have <br />gone the other way with Mr. Nguyen, but then we didn't know that he was going to come <br />or what the Licensee was going to do. <br />Fuke: Then again, he's paying the fine to the employer. So the boss is going to pocket <br />$500. It seems unfair unless they find a way to compensate him. <br />DECEMBER 7, 2017 - LIQUOR ADJUDICATION BOARD MINUTES 18 <br />