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Smith: Second. <br />Ms. Gifffin moved that the Licensee in Case No. 2017-016, be <br />assessed a penalty in the amount of $1,000 with $500 suspended for <br />one year from the date of service of the Decision and Order, on the <br />condition that there are no similar violations to Rule 5-2, and that <br />$500 is to be paid within 30 days upon receipt of the Decision and <br />Order; seconded by Mr. Smith. <br />Fuke: We can discuss the specific penalty. Any questions of Mr. Gonzalez? <br />Giffin: Mr. Gonzalez, is what you said earlier, is that why it's part of the Rule or the law <br />that even when liquor is not being dispensed, there must be a person there? <br />Gonzalez: To answer it simply, yes. But, I have to acknowledge that the Rule itself and <br />the wording about having a person on premise whenever it's open even if liquor is not <br />being sold, is under evaluation. We are trying to determine whether or not that is still <br />relevant in today's times. In this case, I want to make this distinction. The Licensee is not <br />a restaurant. They are a Dispenser General. They are not required to have 30 percent of <br />their sales be food sales. If this were a restaurant, and they serve food as their <br />designation and the "alcohol sales" is in support of that, we would consider them not <br />having to have a person in active charge but they can remain open as a restaurant if they <br />were not to have liquor sales. They are a Dispenser General in this case, so it's a little <br />different. That being said, they do serve heavy pupus, food. The only thing is that they're <br />not saying they're going to have 30 percent of their sales be food. They're a burger place. <br />That's the flip -side. So, can't they continue to sell burgers and lock up their cooler? We <br />are looking at that, maybe having to amend the Rule to be more flexible. <br />Takase: Let me take it one step further. They tried to comply with the law. When the <br />investigator went in, they had signs up saying no liquor service available. To that, we'll <br />give them some credit. But, the fact that they had no managers anymore, which has been <br />going on about a week, we felt they couldn't make that their permanent method of <br />operation. They needed to get somebody in right away. They had failed to do that. We <br />have allowed a Licensee that passed where for some reason you lose a manager on duty <br />that's sick or whatever. They could put up a sign saying liquor sales are being suspended <br />and we would give them the benefit of the doubt. But in this case where the investigator <br />asked them if they could get somebody to come in, he was told that they couldn't because <br />they didn't have any managers, either they left or were fired. <br />Fuke: Have they rectified the problem? <br />Gonzalez: They did. <br />Takase: Yes, now they have. <br />Gonzalez: Immediately after being notified of that, they added at least three people to the <br />list. I agree with the Director. In this situation the Rule as written worked to catch the type <br />of situation it was designed for. It wasn't a spur of the moment or an emergency situation. <br />DECEMBER 7, 2017 - LIQUOR ADJUDICATION BOARD MINUTES 24 <br />