2018-10-18 Liquor Adjudication Board Minutes

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Takase: I can answer that. I'm glad you asked. The reason we differentiated between the two is because the person that was there actually was a card holder. Her card had just expired. The difference is that at least they had somebody (there) that knew the rules. Pawasarat: So she was educated and it's just that her license expired? Takase: Yes. Technically it's a violation. It's like if you don't have a driver license, it doesn't mean you don't know how to drive. Looking at that and the length of time that they had a license, we differentiated between the two. Fuke: And that being the first violation? Takase: Yes. Fuke: Any other questions regarding the recommended penalty? Pawasarat: I wanted to talk about that a little more. I can see the reasoning for that, but I could also see the reasoning likewise, if somebody does have that higher level card, they should be more aware. They should know better and know and understand the responsibility that it takes and know when their card expires, and be more "on it." Takase: Yes. Gonzalez: And that's why we filed the charge; to convey that seriousness and they should pay more attention to when their card expires, and keep up on that aspect. Right after being notified, she called the very next day to take her class to get her card renewed. Pawasarat: Okay, thank you. Fuke: Any further questions on the penalty? Again, the staff's attorney is recommending $1,000 with $750 suspension. I hear one of the Board Members suggesting that there may be some questions regarding that. This is the time, if you want to make a motion on the penalty whether to go the whole nine yards which is $1,000 with nothing suspended, or suspending the entire thing. That's within the purview of the Board, so I'll leave it up for discussion among the Board Members. Giffin: I'm caught between a rock and a hard place. I can understand Andi's question. Sid and I go round and round almost at every meeting that we've had about the fines and the thought behind the suspension of a certain amount of the listed fine. If it's any comfort to you, I want you to know that the suspension of a certain amount of the fine is usually done. Fortunately, we always have the wisdom of our Director to explain to us the rationale behind it. Usually that bodes well with me. Mukai: Mr. Chair? Point of information, what's the procedure in notifying card holders that their license (card) is expired? Takase: We don't. The card is good for five years. A lot of times, they're not at the same place (of business) anymore, so we don't send out notices. If we did, it becomes our OCTOBER 18, 2018 - LIQUOR ADJUDICATION BOARD MINUTES 10