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store Tike this, their paperwork should be (updated); they don't usually have kids <br />frequenting the place. <br />Mukai: Mr. Chair, I have a two-part point of information or question. First, as part of the <br />liquor inspector's list of things to do, when they go to an establishment like this, do they <br />ask to see a list of all the card holders and expiration dates? Is that a normal procedure? <br />Gonzalez: We instruct the licensees that their license needs to be posted for clear <br />visibility and that the card holder list which you're referring to has to be ready for ease of <br />inspection. Our advice to them is to post it next to their license so it's in the same area. <br />Sometimes because they don't want people ripping it down, it's in the general vicinity like <br />by the register or by the manager's desk. <br />Mukai: The second part to my question is in instances where the inspector actually gets <br />to view the list of permit holders, what percentage of their inspection do they find a <br />person's name listed on there that their card has expired? Not just the employees that are <br />on the premises, but any of the card holders on the list. Do you have any record of that? <br />Gonzalez: We don't keep that specific statistic. What happens more often is people quit <br />or don't work there, so you can see the names on the list that are crossed out. According <br />to our rules, the duty is upon the licensee to update that persons in active charge list with <br />us whenever there are changes. Sometimes, for whatever reason, we'll have a situation <br />where the most recent list was taped but it fell because the tape wasn't good, so the most <br />recent list wasn't up there. <br />Takase: We tell them that they should renew it annually. When they do their renewals, <br />they should update their list because we find that they have people that are current card <br />holders but they don't appear on the list. That would be a violation. But sometimes, they <br />have notified us, so it won't be a violation. We will send them a new list each time they <br />notify us of changes to it. But between us sending it to them and them actually posting it, <br />it sometimes doesn't happen. Our investigators won't know off -hand what the current list <br />is. We're trying to get modernized online so the investigators could actually pull up all of <br />that information on their phone or tablet we go to. Right now they have to rely on the list <br />and that's why we have it posted. Sometimes, (the employees) don't carry their cards with <br />them. They're supposed to, but it's not required. The investigator can just look at the list <br />to verify that they are a carded manager. That's the "check -off' for the investigators. If a <br />person says they're the manager but they don't have their card on them, then they can <br />refer back to the list to double-check whether they are in fact listed. There's still some <br />paper involved. We're trying to move past that. We're starting to get there, but until then, <br />we still rely on those things. <br />Pawasarat: Director Takase? They only sell liquor at this establishment? <br />Takase: Primarily. I believe they have some other things, but it's not like a 7 -Eleven. <br />Fuke: Can I follow up on your question, along those lines? Does Kamuela Liquor have a <br />different license than for example, Holo Holo Pantry? <br />OCTOBER 18, 2018 - LIQUOR ADJUDICATION BOARD MINUTES 13 <br />