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off all of our debt so that the property is completely debt free, and then everything that we do <br />after that, we have to raise the money—the Board will not let us build until we raise the money <br />in order to build. And, so we slowed things way down. Part of that is, is so that we can keep our <br />tuition low enough so that we can minister to the people of Puna, which we all know is an <br />economically depressed area. And, then the other thing is we don't want to be an economic <br />burden to the community or create a bad situation where we get ourselves, spend too much <br />money and not have enough to pay it back, and not be able to pay our faculty and things of that <br />nature. <br />So, that's why we've taken our time over the years, to be able to raise the money as we go, so <br />that we can maintain that status of being debt free. Keeping our tuition low so that we can help <br />the people of Puna. <br />KERN: So, like I said, overall it's a relatively straightforward application. I'd be happy to <br />answer any questions, and I humbly ask for your support. <br />CLARKSON: Did you read the Planning Director's recommendations, and do you agree with <br />them? <br />KERN: Yes, we do. <br />RIMEL: Yes, sir. <br />CLARKSON: Any questions for the Applicant? <br />IKEDA: Yes, I have. You know, I'd like tothere's two questions I want to ask. Why did it <br />take you 22 years to ask for an exemption for that asphalt, you know, the berm? <br />RIMEL: Why it took us that long? <br />IKEDA: Yes, because I mean according to the initial permit, it was six months after the Bypass <br />Road was built, and you never built it. <br />RIMEL: Well, it's an interesting story. When they first, when we first started building down <br />there, the road was not paved at all, and actually, we didn't even know because our access would <br />have been top of Milo Street by the gas station all the way down. And, so when the application <br />originally went in, they didn't even know where the Bypass was going to cut across, there was <br />still a lot of speculation. And, so, we were responsible for paving Milo Street all the way down <br />to the corner where it meets Railroad as well as the 8-1/2 Mile Camp frontage. During the <br />course of the construction, we asked for an extension on that because they started to build the <br />Bypass, they cut off our access, and then they said okay, we'll give you an extension. After that, <br />we went out one day and someone was doing the centerline survey on the road. And—and, so <br />we went out and talked to him, and they said the State of Hawaii is paving all of Milo Street all <br />the way around to the papaya factory as well as the 8-1/2 Mile Camp Road. So, we didn't have <br />to pay for it. So, when we went back into the County, you can go back and look into the records, <br />it was right around Christmas we were asking for the extension on the paving and the berms and <br />EXHIBIT A <br />5 <br />