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follow subdivision or I just want to follow this on something else. You know, part of the project
<br />district discussion always with the developer is as a whole, what makes sense. Okay, so you give
<br />and take. In this case, I do want to—even from a larger planning point of view, we are trying to
<br />create, you know, density, and this is a Medium Density area, and you want to create density in
<br />areas near town, right? We're, as Planning, we're trying to avert the flow of—of density into
<br />sprawl into other parts of the island. So, here's an opportunity to actually create density in Hilo
<br />which there's not a ton of opportunities left to do that. We can create a walkable community
<br />here, and so the ability to create, you know, to from 500 to 700 units doesn't cause me a rub
<br />because we're providing an ability to create a community for folks to live in. And, a community
<br />that's created by people who were born and raised here, and I gotta underline that. That you
<br />have folks that are born and raised here trying to do something good for the community. But, it's
<br />a balance. So, you know, I've come forward with some things that they prefer not to do, but it is
<br />this, you know, give and take, and where we end up is, is all what we're trying to do. Again, like
<br />you, I totally respect the family. That we've been at the table ever since I arrived to figure out a
<br />way to make this project go. And, what will be left, you know, what's the legacy? Hopefully,
<br />we can build for folks that, yes, I like curb, gutter, and sidewalks right away. Love it. But, you
<br />know, are we flexible on the timing and stuff. But I want folks that live in this community to
<br />feel as if they can get out their doors, can walk to stores, and feel safe about it, too.
<br />So, not, not ever an easy answer to finding this balance, but I appreciate the flexibility and the
<br />discussions we've had over two years to move this project forward, but I want to remind folks
<br />that the project isn't isolated into just following Subdivision Code, right? We're in a project
<br />district trying to weigh many different things that would work for the community in the end.
<br />CLARKSON: Any further questions from the Commission? If not, thank you. Please be seated.
<br />I'm going to call for just a five- or ten-minute recess. We have half a dozen folks who want to
<br />testify, but five minutes, recess.
<br />Chairman Clarkson called a recess at 10:29 a.m., and the meeting was reconvened at 10:36 a.m.
<br />CLARKSON: Okay, we're going to try and get going again. If Commissioners and staff could
<br />please return to their assigned positions. Thank you.
<br />At this time, we have at least six people signed up to testify, and a few more coming. So, at this
<br />time, I'd like to call Cheryl Reis, Vianne Reis, James Sutherland, and Dede Sutherland to come
<br />up, please. I'm sorry, I mispronounced Reis. Are we missingoh, there we go. Would you all
<br />please raise your right hand? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the
<br />Planning Commission today?
<br />TESTIFIERS: Yes/I do.
<br />CLARKSON: Would we please start on this end?
<br />SUTHERLAND, J.: They were signed up before me, I think.
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