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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – February 12, 2019 <br />game –it takes so long – I’m looking for other solutions to try to work through <br />that and then this is always the hard one but we’re trying to identify lands that <br />we can turn into cooperatives – that don’t have the strict rules of forest <br />reserves and stuff. That’s gonna boil down to lease lands and see where we <br />can get with some of those as far as at least making cooperative – I’ll tell you <br />right off the bat – cooperative bird hunting areas are more palatable to a lot of <br />lessees – I don’t know why but that seems to be the way – but we need more <br />places to hunt mammals that are not gonna be offensive to people trying to <br />preserve, you know, just areas that may be already degraded and stuff that <br />we can still have active hunting and managed hunting. So I’m trying to identify <br />some of those areas and then areas where we do have animals I’ve noticed <br />that we don’t have a lot of good data for how many are there so it’s hard for <br />me minus what I see in the field I can’t really tell you – so I’m trying to start a <br />more – a little bit better survey methodology so I can figure out what’s out <br />there. <br /> <br />BKK: What’s the preference of the survey? <br /> <br />IC: Preference? <br /> <br />BKK: Like preference is how you would take the survey? <br /> <br />IC: Ah, right now it’s down and dirty fastest ones are aerial surveys for mammals. <br />We started doing game birds surveys in Kapapala on foot – the same <br />methodology that they did on Mauna Kea this last fall and they’re gonna do <br />this coming up week, I think. So for game birds we’ve been trying to do – <br />we’re doing ‘em on the ground, obviously, cause it’s hard to see ‘em from a <br />helicopter but, um, for game mammal – at least in the open country we’re <br />using helicopters. It doesn’t work in forested areas, you know, for pigs and <br />stuff but there’s – it’s actually really hard to survey for pigs. <br /> <br />BKK: And based off of your past assessments – do you think they’ve increased, <br />decreased – the same? <br /> <br />IC: We haven’t been doing it long enough. <br /> <br />BKK: No? <br /> <br />IC: We haven’t been doing it long enough. Yeah. If we do, um, see an increase or <br />decrease I hope it’s because – if it’s a decrease I hope it’s cause we’re <br />allowed to hunt some of ‘em but, um, it doesn’t always work that way. We’ll <br />see what happens. <br /> <br />TN: At legislation I heard Representative Nicole Lowen be bombarded with calls <br />that these ungulates – goats – are now on private property – have you <br />received any calls of the complaints of goats being in private area like Pine <br />17 <br /> <br /> <br />