2019 02-12 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – February 12, 2019 Kapapala Ranch lease – that’s a State lease and you said that there’s no control efforts being done on the ranch... IC: Just as far as I know... That the State’s running – I don’t know if the ranch is doing anything. KS: So the ranch has a damage control permit. IC: Ah – no, it’s not, well, they have in the past, I don’t know if they still do. KS: If they did have a damage control permit what would they be allowed to take? IC: Probably would be for pigs – I can’t say that we wrote one for sheep for them. I’ve never written one. I’ve never seen it. How’s that? KS: Could it be possible that they have a damage control permit that it would also include birds – that could include all game mammals and birds, pigs, sheep, as well as bird species because I know that on Maui birds – some of the farmers have damage control permits for the pheasants bothering the lettuce so could that damage control permit possibly affect the public hunting not only in the Kapapala Forest Reserve but also the bird hunting in the Kapapala GMA or the cooperative? IC: I’ve spent a lot of time I’m sure there’s no bird, damage – I mean, there would be no reason for them to be shooting birds – like what – how is that going to help the ranch? KS: I just curious what that permit might allow them to do – like if that permit would also – I’m just more curious if you would allow them to take Mouflon and because that ranch – because the fence is not totally enclosed between the hunting area and the ranch area if they’re taking on the ranch as part of their damage control could potentially affect the public hunting which is bordering it and not a completely enclosed fence. IC: Oh, mauka side? So the mauka fence between the forest reserve and the ranch is not sheep proof – until recently it wasn’t anything proof – but they’ve done some new five strand bar on that mauka ranch fence makai forest reserve fence so mostly to keep their cattle in. If there’s a - I’m not aware – I don’t think there’s a damage control permit – though in the past before my tenure here they had a pig trapping permit, I think, I don’t believe it’s been renewed – I could be wrong though. KS: I just would be curious about, you know, if they are drawing a permit what the numbers they’re taking and possibly like you said if the numbers are lower in the forest reserve than on the ranch well there’s no public hunting if that’s 20