2019 02-12 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – February 12, 2019 of understanding what you all’s commission’s about here – I would say that you guys should be particularly paying close attention to the application of HIPA law to fisheries or any game stuff for that stuff for that matter – any permitted activity because that’s what they did – is they went throught he permitting process and the structure of the permit process in the state – anything is susceptible to this same attack and that’s troublesome when you start talking about small groups – for example – right now there’s a currently a bill at the legislative level where they’re saying the lay net guys – the guys that use lay net – they’re gonna have to go through – if they want to have their permit renewed or reissued to them from the state – they’re gonna have to get a HIPA review done. Now, I mean, that may sound fine and dandy to a lot of people but the reality is, is that’s basically a ban because the lay net guys don’t have the resources to go and muster that sort of a review – I mean these guys are – these things are hundreds of thousands of dollars. TN: The committee – the WTL Committee tabled the lay net issue and is asking Chairperson Susanne Case to define certain wording of her bill so the bill got tabled and if it doesn’t go through this Friday it may not be passed. EK: That’s how a lot of bills get deferred, triple deferred, double deferred – I mean I get all that – I guess my point is though is that you already see it occurring. You see – like you look at our status – and the automatic these guys are switching over to doing it to another fishery. That’s my whole point – it’s not necessarily about the, you know, where this bill currently sits for lay net guys – that’s not the point at all – the point is that this line of attack will be used over and over and over again and it will be applied to fish and it’s – the people that are pushing these things – they’re not even from Hawaii – they don’t even live here – they’re from the mainland and they’ve got millions and millions of dollars and they come in and they start dictating rules and they start using these loop holes and the reality is, is that fishermen, fisheries – they don’t have the resources or the organization to fight these guys – these guys have lawyers on tap – you know, big – these are big firms, you know, so that’s why... TN: Thank you, Eric. Yeah... BKK: Some of the correspondence – can you work with Donna and send it to her and then she’ll email it all to the commissioners. EK: OK... BKK: And then she’ll send it over to all of us. OLD BUSINESS 28