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in Urban, but at this time, it fits better within just that special use permit or Special Permit <br />application. So, it just seems to be more expedient for the Trust in order to still have the uses <br />they need but not go through as much of a process at the State level. <br />CLARKSON: Thank you. Any further questions? <br />REPLOGLE: Yes. I'm curious. This is going to be open to the whole community for, if they <br />wanted to go learn dancing or farming, they can go? <br />SEASTROM/SHIBATA: [Nodded yes.] <br />SHIBATA: So, the Lili`uokalani Trust per the will, we have, we're setup with preference of <br />Native Hawaiian, for kids of Native Hawaiian ancestry, so with a specific focus of orphan and <br />destitute, so they need to meet that criteria, and it is part of our mission to really serve the most <br />vulnerable Native Hawaiian children and people within the community. Just to clarify. <br />CLARKSON: I have one more question. I think it sounds like a great project, but I do have a <br />concern about the students who will be crossing the Kea`au-Pahoa Road after school. There is <br />discussion of that crossing in your application in the Background Report, but there is, as I <br />remember it, there doesn't seem to be any indication of lighting that crossing orI just think <br />that's a very dangerous crossing or could be. Do you have any further things to say about that? <br />SHIBATA: Yes, so we've been in coordination with the State Department of Transportation <br />which has jurisdiction of Kea`au-Pahoa Road, so we have identified certain traffic calming <br />measures in our traffic study that was prepared for the permit application, and, you know, DOT <br />did sign off on that as acceptable. I think the specific improvements have yet to be determined <br />and will be with further consultation with DOT, but your concern is definitely noted, and we'll <br />look into it. <br />CLARKSON: Okay, thank you. Any further questions at this time from the Commission? If <br />not, thank you. Please be seated. At this time, we haveI thought I had a list of potential <br />testifiers. Did I lose it in the last five minutes here? At this time, we have three people signed <br />up to testify on this. Would Dwight Vicente, Peggy Farias, and Suelley Mali`i [sic -Shelley <br />Mahi-Hanai] let me ask the front desk to print names, please clearly in block letters for the <br />benefit of this old reader. Who have we got? I know Mr. Vicente. And <br />FARIAS: I'm Peggy. <br />CLARKSON: You're Peggy? Who is the other person that wishes to testify on this matter? <br />Would you please come forward? There being only three, I'm going to swear all three of you in, <br />or not, as Mr. Vicente prefers, and ask for testimony individually. Would you raise your right <br />hand, please? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the Planning <br />Commission today? <br />FARIAS: [Nodded yes.] <br />EXHIBIT A <br />4 <br />