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I think one example here inside of Hilo is that, and I'll be brief and I'll be really quick here, is <br />that diabetes is plaguing the community, okay? And, we need a diabetes suite inside of the site <br />here, and within that, you need endocrinology, podiatry, and ophthalmology, and internal med or <br />family practice doc to that combined to really treat the whole person here. Renal failure is so <br />severe here is that if you take a look at the dialysis center, it had to increase chairs before it even <br />opened. So, to be able to combat that, these are types of facilities that we have to have, and we <br />have to have the space to do so. All medical facilities here are cramped for space, and this <br />development would help combat that. Thank you. <br />PALAMA: Hi, I'm Cathy Palama, and I live in Kaumana. In fact, the project is at my backdoor. <br />I will tie into his, and this is personal, because my family has medical issues, and there is not <br />anyone here that can treat them, so we have to travel, need to go to Honolulu. If we're lucky, <br />sometimes there's a specialist in Waimea. With this facility coming in, it will eliminate—like he <br />says, transportation—it will eliminate the transportation and time and effort and the finances that <br />we have to take to go to Honolulu. Sometimes it takes me three days staying in Honolulu with <br />one of my family members to get the care they need. <br />I really believe that this project will eliminate a lot of it. I'm one of those. I'm a diabetic, and <br />there are times that my doctor tells me that I need to go to Honolulu for certain things, and <br />having quite a large family, it's very hard for me. But, I'm here to say that I'm just a resident of <br />Hilo, from Honolulu, I love it here, but we are so isolated in many ways and many things, and I <br />feel this whole project, not only the medical part, but the whole project, will benefit Hawaii <br />Island, and will benefit communities, and benefit the people of Hawaii. Thank you. <br />VICENTE: Good afternoon, my name is Dwight Vicente. I represent the Hawaiian Kingdom. <br />Here again, I refer back to the ReciproI mean the treaty between King Kalakaua and the <br />Emperor of Japan and ended in 1897, and the limits of the, the lands that was ceded illegally to <br />the United States in 1898 was the 1,750,000 acres that became in 1900 the Territory of Hawaii; <br />1920, they rebranded the Crown and Government lands to be Hawaiian Home Lands. And, then <br />1959 by compact, the Territory agreed to implement the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act in <br />the name of the State of Hawaii. Now, the lands in question are Crown lands. There's no <br />documents showing that these lands became part of the ceded land in 1898. These lands still <br />remained in the name of the Hawaiian Kingdom. These are Crown lands, and there is no <br />contract with, that those contracts ended in 1925. King Kalakaua kicked up the lease to 25 years, <br />the 3 to 5 year leases. So, then, the—for anyone to claim they own the land and they want to <br />develop the land is in question, and on top of that, you've got the County where they're stating or <br />the roads will be dedicated to the County. That brings up the question of jurisdiction. Does the <br />County and the State extend their jurisdiction beyond the lands rebranded as Hawaiian Home <br />Lands? That's a question I haven't seen a document that shows that yet. So, that question is <br />still, that's going to come up in the Real Property Tax appeal. That's one of my Real Property <br />Tax appeal argument is that the County of Hawaii is not the 4,000+ square miles of island. It's <br />only the lands rebranded as Hawaiian Home Lands. You got the case, State vs. Harold Jim <br />where you're required to have a driver's license on lands designated Hawaiian Home Lands. <br />Another thing I want to point out, I've seen removal of Crown dirt on that property and being <br />sold. There's no authority. That's theft right there, and the County has no jurisdiction over that, <br />EXHIBIT C <br />20 <br />