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know, but on occasion we get questions; how come that is becoming that use now and they <br />propose that? And so those things do come up. But again, when it’s talking about an ordinance, <br />when we look at zoning, we shouldn’t be looking at a specific project, even though when an <br />applicant may come in and say, look, I’m looking at doing this. The reality is, is this the <br />appropriate zoning in this area to allow these permitted uses here? Because the reality is maybe <br />even this guy may build this, whatever it is, but ten years down the line it doesn’t work and <br />something else comes in there, you know, that’s allowed in that particular zone. But in regards <br />to permits, that’s different; they are required to build that particular project and they have to stick <br />with it. The only way then can change it is coming for an amendment. <br /> <br />So that concludes our presentation. We can try to answer any questions that the Commission <br />may have. <br /> <br />UNGER: I think I’d rather hold off on questions right now. I’d rather take testimony from the <br />public, and then once that’s closed you can address some of the questions that invariably will <br />come up, and then I think then we can open for, one time for the Commission to have a <br />discussion. <br /> <br />DARROW: Thank you. <br /> <br />UNGER: Yeah, let’s do that. We have a five-minute request for a break. Five-minute break. <br />Thank you. <br /> <br />RECESSED: Chairman Unger called for a short recess at 11:03 a.m. <br /> <br />RECONVENED: The meeting reconvened at 11:12 a.m., with approximately 15 people in <br />the audience. <br /> <br />UNGER: Let’s go ahead and start the public testimony on Administrative Matters No. 1. I’ll <br />call – actually, why don’t we, everybody who wants to testify, if you would raise your right <br />hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth before the Planning Commission? <br /> <br />TESTIFIERS: Yes. I do. <br /> <br />UNGER: Thank you. First four testifiers: Mark Van Pernis, Greg Olsen, David <br />Blancett-Maddock and Keola Childs. Please state your name and area or residence. <br /> <br />VAN PERNIS: Mark Van Pernis. Makalei, North Kona. I’m a retired attorney and I’ve studied <br />this issue significantly. First of all, let me digress to say if – he didn’t tell us what the <br />recommendation of the Planning Director and the Department were on the prior application – but <br />if they recommended approval, it shows how out of touch they are with the local community. <br /> <br />I would argue that the Planning Department presentation, which took about half an hour, was <br />incomplete, and certainly stilted; you didn’t get a fair statement of everything. The truth of the <br />matter is that the Council, or the County – and when I refer to the County, I’m talking about you, <br />the Planning Director and Council, everybody – they give the developer hundreds of thousands, <br />10 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />