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backhoes, with no permit, and they did all the stockpiling, all of that was going into the beach. <br />Banyan Tree, when this permit of extension was happening, they did not have legal rights to do <br />the seawall. The surfers called me, and everything drenched to the ocean, everything was, it was <br />so bad. Here is what happened is the tarp, they had a black tarp to try to hold all the <br />construction, because they had heavy machinery anyway with no permit, and then it went onto <br />the reef, and there was endangered sea turtles there, and it stunk because they died – oh, sorry <br />\[responding to the countdown sign for testimony\]. But, okay, make a long story short is that you <br />should have them go through clearly another permit. There’s too many things that have changed <br />there, including historic, including iwi-s, skull, skull popped up, so. I want to – I can go back <br />there. <br /> <br />UNGER: Great, thank you. Thank – oh, ma’am? <br /> <br />DIANE BLANCETT-MADDOCK: I just wanted to add, there’s probably a multitude of letters <br />that were submitted in written testimony for this issue. I hope that the Planning Department has <br />given them to you. <br /> <br />UNGER: Yeah, we all have them, thank you. <br /> <br />DIANE BLANCETT-MADDOCK: Thank you. <br /> <br />UNGER: Thank you, you may be seated. Is there anybody else here that wishes to testify on <br />this topic? Not seeing any, I need a motion to close public testimony. <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: I motion that we close. <br /> <br />KEALOHA: I’ll second. <br /> <br />UNGER: Motion by Commissioner Shimaoka, second by Commissioner Kealoha. All in favor? <br /> <br />COMMISSIONERS: Aye. <br /> <br />UNGER: Opposed? Hearing no opposed, public testimony is closed. As we outlined in our <br />process, Jeff, why don’t you start again? And if you took some notes of some of the questions, <br />we did also, so if you miss any, we can continue the discussion. But why don’t you start with <br />what you’ve heard and how you can respond? <br /> <br />DARROW: Sure. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are questions I can respond to. Some of <br />them are legal questions that would probably be better addressed by our corporation counsel, and <br />I’m not sure that’s something they can do at this time, it would probably take research. But I’ll <br />try to address the ones that I can. <br /> <br />Mr. Van Pernis brought up the idea of keeping – for zoning ordinances, not for permits – but <br />keeping the zoning in place, and we had briefly touched upon that that the options available to <br />the Director are to revert back to its original or to a more appropriate zoning. As mentioned, <br />we’ve gone through all that work to approve it as an appropriate zoning, it would be, it seems <br />17 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />