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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN PSC 2020/07/21 2018-2020Committee on Public Safety 11th Session Hawaii County Building 25 Aupuni Street Hilo, Hawai i July 21, 2020 CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Public Safety was called to order ORDER: at 3:00 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Chair. ROLL CALL: Present: Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Chair (via videoconference from Kona) Ms. Karen Eoff, Vice Chair (via videoconference from Kona) Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung, Member Ms. Maile Medeiros David, Member (via videoconference from Kona) Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member (came in later) Mr. Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Member Absent & Excused: Ms. Valerie T. Poindexter, Member STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items. PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by the Chair: Lopaka Milliora: Anthony Priola: Gene Tamashiro: Devin Shaw K. McMackin, Sr.: Lani Eugenio: Comm. 996; and Comm. 997, comment. Comm. 996, comment. Comm. 996; and Comm. 997, comment. Comm. 996; and Comm. 997, comment. Comm. 996; and Comm. 997, comment. PSC -11 July 21, 2020 CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, if that's our last testifier, then I'll close public testimony at this time. Clerk, can you read in our first communication? I'm sorry, one second. I'm sorry, we have a request to take something out of order because we have someone using tele -meeting to join our meeting. Is it possible for us to take Communication 997 first? Is there anyone that has any issues with that? MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair, I just want to point out that our Civil Defense Administrator, Talmage Magno had to step away from a COVID meeting to make this particular meeting. And I just have three questions for him that will maybe take five minutes. But I defer to your wisdom on prioritizing, but I just wanted to make that known. CHR. VILLEGAS: Okay, thank you for sharing that. And my apologies, but I am going to go ahead and take Communication 997 first, as we have someone who specifically had to make this time allotment to participate today remotely from Oahu. So, my apologies for any inconvenience this causes anyone. And we will get through this and get to your communication, Ms. Kierkiewicz. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Chair, if I could, I have two officers here who have to return to work, and their presentation is extremely brief. And it may actually help our next communication. Can we hear what they have to say very briefly? Just as an update on where we're at with our missing children. CHR. VILLEGAS: Okay, I'm a little confused here, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, were you then looking for the police report to come before Mr. Talebi's presentation? MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I would like to, because they need to return to work or we're going to lose them for the rest of the day. CHR. VILLEGAS: Okay. MR. TALEBL Sorry to interrupt. This is Sha Talebi. I'm fine going after all the other business. CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you Mr. Talebi, it's so gracious of you. Thank you so much. MR. TALEBL My presentation is longer, and then if people want to ask questions. So feel free to take up the other matters. Page 2 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you so much. In that case, if it's okay, Ms. Kierkiewicz, can we go again with Communication 996, as it's going to be very brief? And then we'll transition straight over to Civil Defense, which will also be very brief. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: That's totally fine. Thank you, Chair. MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, CATIONS: Communications. Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members, of Business: the following item was taken out of order: Comm. 996: REQUESTS AN UPDATE FROM THE HAWAII POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE STATISTICS AND IDENTITIES OF CHILDREN CLASSIFIED AS RUNAWAY OR MISSING CHILDREN IN HAWAII COUNTY From Council Members Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder and Rebecca Villegas, dated June 30, 2020. Motion to Close File: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to close file on Comm. 996. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy. CHR. VILLEGAS: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. We have Lieutenant Finkey today here, as well as Officer Kagimoto. And I asked them to be here today to give us updates on numbers that we have currently, as well as any active, missing, or runaway cases. And I'll ask you to go ahead, Lieutenant Finkey, and just give us an update. (Note: At this time, Hawaii Police Department Area 1 Juvenile Aid Section Lieutenant Sandor Finkey and Detective Gavin Kagimoto came forward to address the members of the Committee LT. FINKEY: Okay, I'm Lieutenant Sandor Finkey from the Hawaii Police Department providing the statistics for runaways and missing children. Right now we currently have one outstanding missing child, which is Benny Rapoza, male, six. He went missing in December of 2019. We currently have in Area 1, which is comprised of Hamakua, Hilo, and Puna. A total of nine runaways. We have runaways who have signed media waivers are: Reny Kaholo-Hiapo, Aidyn Cruse, Treysin Brugman, Layne Tomlinson, Uluwehi Saragosa, and Dakota Iseri. We do not have a current media release for Uluwehi Saragosa because we're working on obtaining a photograph. Page 3 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 Area 2, which is comprised of South Kohala, North Kohala, Kona and Ka`u has three outstanding runaways: Kerri-Ann Duarte, Allanie Duarte, and Treeny Shiraki. That's a total of 12 current open runaway cases for the Island of Hawaii. And eight of those are repeat runaways. In terms of statistics, comparison from this year to last year; from January 1st to July 21" of 2019, there were 211 runaways. And from January 1" 2020 to July 21, 2020, there's 192, which is approximately a ten percent decrease. What we'd like to say is, we'd like to thank the public for all of the tips that they've provided us. And we act on every tip that we receive. We just want the public be aware though, call us with their tips as opposed to sharing stuff on social media and assuming that it's fact. We just want to be sure that any tips that are giving any information that's given comes to us so that we're able to investigate and verify it. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, mahalo Lieutenant, thank you sir. I just wanted to say, thank you for putting this together. I'm going to make this a monthly update, like we do with the Mayor's Office. You can come in and give this information. It helps the public understand what's going on and provides a very clear authoritive picture of what's happening in our community. And I would like to say, too, that stemming from our first meeting that we had, I know you guys have made a lot of changes so far. And the community has responded. They appreciate what you're doing. And as well with our next presentation, or the following presentation from Sha from the State. Kind of what we're doing to further that at the State level and at the County level. So, I appreciate what you guys are doing, and mahalo for putting this information together. Just a way to keep the community and ourselves updated on what's happening. LT. FINKEY: Thank you. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I yield to any of the Council Members if they have any questions. CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. Does anyone in Hilo? Yes, Chair Chung. MR. CHUNG: Yeah, so, let's see if I get this straight. Right at this present time, we have 12 runaways and one missing? Right, Benny Rapoza, yes. Okay. And in terms of the 192 runaways that you had since January to July, how many were repeats? LT. FINKEY: I don't have that because I just started tracking that. Page 4 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MR. CHUNG: But you think this is 192 separate kids? LT. FINKEY: No, absolutely not. MR. CHUNG: Okay. If you had to take a guess, more or less, how many individual kids have runaway? If you had to take a guess. I'm not going to hold you to this. I just want to have an idea, of you know, how prevalent the repeat runaways are. LT. FINKEY: I really don't want to guess. MR. CHUNG: Okay, well maybe next time when you come, yeah, you can kind of give us an idea. LT. FINKEY: You know, yeah, I'd have to look at the numbers, because I don't want to put any information out there that's inaccurate at this point. But it's definitely not 192 separate children that ran away. Definitely not. MR. CHUNG: Okay. Because just coincidentally I had a call today from a lady who wanted to know if she could get guardianship over her grandson or something. And then she explained to me that the mother got him back. Of course I'm not going to mention the name. But he keeps on coming back to her house and runaway reports are made. She said three or four times. I said that's kind of interesting, we have a runaway item on our agenda today. I mean, I didn't say that, but I'm thinking in my mind, right? And three or four times that one kid, only coming back to where he wanted to be, yeah. So, yeah, that's of interest to me. I want to see how many actual kids have run away, yeah, and reported to you guys. LT. FINKEY: Well, just an example, we have one female on this list, and she has run away 13 times in the past year. MR. CHUNG: Yeah, I suspect it's going to be something like that. LT. FINKEY: Yeah, so that gives you an idea. And eight out of these 12 are repeat runners. That doesn't make them any less vulnerable when they leave. MR. CHUNG: Of course. LT. FINKEY: We just want to make sure that that's out there, but if you see just the current runaways, you're looking at eight out of 12. MS. LEE LOY: Sixty-six percent, I did the math. LT. FINKEY: What was that? Page 5 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MS. LEE LOY: Sixty-six percent is repeat runaways. Just based on 12 current; eight being a repeat. Sixty-six percent of that is our total. Because I have the same question and forgive me for interrupting, but you can actually start to map a trend. LT. FINKEY: Exactly. There apparently are individuals who have different issues why they leave repeatedly. And it varies from child to child. MR. CHUNG: Would you be able to provide that kind of information? Or is it going to take too much? LT. FINKEY: Well, we have to look at 192 cases if we were to do that, to give you an accurate number, and that will take a long time. Just putting together this report took several hours. MR. CHUNG: Yeah, well, maybe by the end of the year, if you guys can, you know, when you guys have time. Because, you know, this is an important issue. But at the same time we want to get a handle as to what the magnitude is. You know, when you say 192 that sounds like a lot. LT. FINKEY: Well, the way we're tracking it right now, we're showing how many are repeats, and if we do a month -by -month count based on percentages, we could give you a percentage but that data would take several months to accrue. MR. CHUNG: Right, but you know, as much information as we can get, it's always good, yeah, in tackling a problem. So maybe at the end of the year or maybe one year from now, if you guys can get more statistics on where these kids are running away from. And if you guys know why they might be running away; from what kind of situations? LT. FINKEY: Well, we already know why with a lot of them. There are multiple different reasons and they vary from child to child. So we'll do what we can in order to try and get some sort of figure when it comes to the actual amount of children who are running away but it will take some time. MR. CHUNG: No, I'm not asking, you know, for you to drop everything. It's a gradual process, but as I said, the more information we get the better. It gives us a better picture of what we're facing. Alright, thank you, you guys. CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Chair Chung. Is there anyone else in Hilo? MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I have a follow-up comment, but only after Kona has had an opportunity. CHR. VILLEGAS: Nope, go ahead, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. Page 6 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. I just want to put out there for everyone's information that there's a Trafficking Study Report that was done finished in 2020. And in that study, 95 percent of the kids or the victims who had been trafficked began as a runaway. So when we start looking at the numbers, it's just important for us to remember that the vulnerable children or the vulnerable members of society, you know, they're starting as runaways. So that's why these numbers are incredibly important to understand that even if it is a runaway. If 95 percent of the victims began as a runaway, then 95 percent of the number, whether it's, you know, repeat or your non -repeat number. Those are potential victims of trafficking. That's important for us to remember. So just to leave everyone with that thought. MR. CHUNG: Rebecca, I have one more comment. CHR. VILLEGAS: Alright. MR. CHUNG: Yeah, I mean I didn't know we were going to talk about sex trafficking, but you know, I'm glad we're talking about it right now. I just wanted to throw this out. You know, I just got assigned to a case about a week ago. It involves a girl in Honolulu who is a confirmed person who was a victim of sex trafficking. I haven't been able to go over to Honolulu because of various reasons relating to COVID, but you know, I'm kind of looking forward to that. To be able to talk to his girl and see, you know, what the hell happened, right? But I just wanted to throw that out as well since we are talking about the sex trafficking, because it is real. There's no question about it, right? But how big it is, you know, how these kids get sucked into it or lured into it. It's all part of a learning process, right? So thank you. CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Okay, if nobody else would like to make any statements, I just wanted to thank you. We really noticed the transition about not only the youth who are runaways, but those that are being found or being returned. We saw it in the newspaper recently, and I continue to see it in pieces of information that are being provided to the public. And I think that's incredibly helpful. So thank you for transitioning to this system that communicates more information about the current—those missing, those having runaway, and those have been returned. And we'll look forward to the continued gathering of that data, and then how it can be utilized to create reports that provide more accurate information and a complete picture of what's happening here on the Big Island. LT. FINKEY: Thank you. Page 7 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 CHR. VILLEGAS: Alright, and with that, can we take a vote. All those in favor please say "aye." Vote on Comm. 996: The motion to close file on Comm. 996 was carried by Filed the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Richards, and Chair Villegas — 8. Noes: None. Absent: Committee Member Poindexter —1. Excused: None. Return to Order The Chair directed the Committee to return to the order of business. of Business: CHR. VILLEGAS: Mr. Clerk, can you read in Communication 825. Comm. 825: REQUESTS AN UPDATE FROM THE CIVIL DEFENSE AGENCY REGARDING REVIEW OF EMERGENCY PLANS AND PROGRAMS PURSUANT TO SECTION 7-3 OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE From Council Member Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, dated March 6, 2020. Motion to Close File: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 825. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy. CHR. VILLEGAS: Ms. Kierkiewicz. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. And thank you, Talmage, for agreeing to come and provide us an update. You know, earlier this year, Council Member Lee Loy and I, we kind of picked up the pieces again around disaster response, and recovery for our County. And it was the next logical step after we got done with authoring and introducing the Interim Recovery Strategy as it relates to the eruption. And so, in combing through Chapter 7 of Civil Defense, which we are taking a hard look at in partnership with Roy Takemoto and figuring out how we proceed in updating it to be more in alignment with HRS 127 (Hawai`i Revised Statutes). You know, I went through the Articles, very short, just a couple of articles. And in Article 1, Section 7-3, it talked about some of the duties and responsibilities of the Deputy Director, which is our Mayor. But it mentions here that before March 31" of every year, you know, a suite of plans and programs needed to be transmitted to the Council as it relates to just disaster or emergency preparedness. Page 8 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 And so, I just wanted to take the opportunity to see if you could shed some insight and clarity around, what does it mean to transmit these plans and programs to Council? Like what are those particular documents? (Note: At this time, Civil Defense Administrator Talmage Magno came forward to address the members of the Committee.) MR. MAGNO: Good afternoon, Chair and Council people. You know, I kind of queried the staff that's been around for a while, and to their knowledge and to mine, it's never been followed through. HRS 127A (alpha) was adopted in 2015. And so, I guess things had been changed under that document. And then, I believe the Hawaii County Codes never caught up to that, and so that needs to be done. That work needs to be done. So those documents you're talking about; those reports, they've never happened. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: So what sort of guiding framework do we as a County have right now that says in the event of a lava eruption or now a pandemic, what is that trigger -ready process where we are activating, not just people within the County to come together and figure out how we best respond, but you know, who are the liaisons on the State and Federal side? Who are our partners within the community that could be CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) other grassroot's groups like Bodacious Women? I'm just thinking about what's that trigger -ready process so that community is aware and feels comfortable and is yeah, just takes comfort in the fact that there is a plan that we can rely on that transcends through different administrations. That way there's some continuity in our ability to respond. MR. MAGNO: Sure, so the whole program comes under the Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan. Everything basically relies on that plan to lay down the ground work for the General Plan and everything else that comes after that. And so, you know, the Administrative side as far as creating the Emergency Operations Plan, I think that would be beneficial for you all to see. That'll be a good document for you to review. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Emergency Operations Plan? MR. MAGNO: Yes. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: That's a component of the Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan? MR. MAGNO: Right, yeah. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, which is updated every five years? Page 9 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MR. MAGNO: The Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan. So that is being reviewed right now by the State; and you know, it looks like a pretty good document. It'll be adopted and everything, you know, will run off of that for the next five years. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Our County? MR. MAGNO: Yes. Emergency Operations Plan will go under review and redrafting according to what the Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan lays out. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, I hate adding more layers of bureaucracy, so within that plan, do we talk about leveraging community power and supporting their ability to help residents in their particular neighborhoods? You know, I want to get out of this mindset of constantly overloading County Government. So the more that we can shift support and resources to the people and they be a partner in the response and recovery process, you know, I'm fully supportive of that. And so, I'm curious if this new iteration of the Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan kind of leans in that direction. MR. MAGNO: Including the communities is critical to our operation. The government, whatever level, we can't do it. And we don't have the connection to what's on the ground as the communities do. So we include, you know, the CERT teams. That's critical. You know, on a normal year, when we can get to it, we'll provide five basic trainings a year that'll bring in new members, create new teams if so be it, and recertify current members. So you know, we always look at building the community. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Building up that local capacity. MR. MAGNO: Yes. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I know that we have CERT teams in nearly every subdivision throughout Puna, because we have been hit with so many disasters over recent years. Can you confirm if we have a CERT team in every community around the Island? Where are some of the pukas? MR. MAGNO: We have CERT teams scattered throughout the islands. You know, this island is so expansive, that there are areas that'll get missed. But I think all parts of the Island are represented. And so, you know, like in coronavirus, we're starting to tap those groups to help us where they can. And so far, you know, we're hitting all the venues that we're having, whether it's testing or food drops and so forth. Page 10 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 So, you know, some communities are missed. You know, we get new applications all the time, but with the situation we're in right now, we can't do the training appropriately. And so that's kind of delayed our progress. But you know, as far as pinpointing areas that need help, I think there's not one place I can pull out, because we've got them from the north part of the Island all the way down to the south and along both coastlines. So, you know, there's a lot of help out there. We have 26 teams scattered throughout the island. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: That's great, Talmage. And so coming back to the purpose of today's conversation. You know, Section 7-3 and that sort of framework for how we mobilize disaster response. You know, how do you think we should proceed in refreshing this chapter, so that we are taking into consideration the updates to HRS 127? MR. MAGNO: Well, we can follow it verbatim, and those documents that come before Council and follow that; or you know, I think we can just adopt the documents that we work on with now, with the Emergency Operations Plan; the soon to be out, Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan. You know, other things like each department's Continuity Operations Plan. You know, that's getting way into the weeds for you guys, but the overall Emergency Operations Plan, maybe an annual review of that would suffice. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, so you've been doing that for the last few years, reviewing and auditing that plan? MR. MAGNO: No, we're going to review it now with the Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan. That's going to be the next step. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: And then, when are these plans going to be available or be transmitted to the Council for our review and approval? MR. MAGNO: Should be the Fall for the Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan. I think in September. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Great, that's helpful, I mean we are in hurricane season. Very concerned about the potential of being hit on top of COVID. And so just wanting to make sure that there's clarity within County Government, within the community, about what everyone's kuleana is and how we are going to get together, work together to kind of weather those storms. So, thank you, Madam Chair, I yield. You know, Talmage, please keep us posted on the plans and how we can be helpful. Thank you. MR. MAGNO: Absolutely. Thank you. CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Ms. Kierkiewicz. Page 11 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MS. LEE LOY: Chair, I have a question. CHR. VILLEGAS: Okay, Ms. Lee Loy. MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. Talmage, and Ms. Kierkiewicz, thanks for bringing this forward because Ms. Kierkiewicz is right. We want that trigger -ready response, and a lot of times what happens is, once we get the Emergency Proclamation, things happen rather quickly. But once that Emergency Proclamation falls away, then we're kind of just stumbling and falling forward. And so, my question really is in regards to the Hazard Mitigation Plan that we're working on now and how it lines up with the FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) Hazard Mitigation Plan because I'm noticing, and this is common language or shared vernacular, if we're not identifying emergencies kind of inconsistent manners, we're not getting the type of funding that we need for recovery. And how are we auditing our County's mitigation plan against the FEMA's plan so that we have shared language. So when we do pull the trigger on funding or recovery plan, everything is lining up very nicely? Are we kind of looking at that with this hazard mitigation plan that we have a draft? Okay. MR. MAGNO: I feel pretty confident that this Multi -Hazard Mitigation plan is going to do that. When we undertook this project, we made sure that it was going to be—and it's part of it. It has to conform and be consistent with the State plan. You can't have any conflict in it, for one. And then FEMA's going to get the last review of it as well. And so the vendor that worked with us on this, very well versed on Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plans. In fact, they had done the State's. They're working on the other Counties right now. You know, they're running ours through the State. So I feel it'll do everything that you're asking for. MS. LEE LOY: So then, in follow-up to that, because we'll line up nicely with FEMA and then Hawaii Revised Statutes. Now, we all recognize every municipal, every county has its unique needs. Is there room for us to wiggle in or slice in or splice in some of our unique needs, like lava. I just cannot imagine, you know, another county having a recovery plan based on a lava eruption like we do. How do we slice in some of those unique climate things we have here? MR. MAGNO: Right. So, with the Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan, you have wiggle room to add some categories. So, climate change was added in that one. We did a real deep dive into the volcanic hazards. And so, you know, lot of review, USGS (United States Geological Survey) helped us out big. We went to the community. A lot of people commented, you know, especially from the community after the 2018 eruption. So I think, you know, those chapters are pretty extensive and definitely a better document than the 2015 in those aspects. Page 12 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MS. LEE LOY: And then for our unique recovery needs, how do we line that up for larger Federal dollars? Is it again, shared vernacular or vocabulary? Or do we have to kind of bridge that with our own legislative policies? MR. MAGNO: You know, back to the vendor, Tetra Tech. Because of their knowledge with recovery and Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plans, they make sure that we address that in the language. I cannot give you specific details, but that was the comment all along. You know, whenever we've had reviews of the document, they'd cite what FEMA looks for and so forth. So, you know, it's 600 plus pages deep and it covers a lot of that. MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Talmage. I think we're learning, not only related to recovery, but a number of our County Codes, what we're trying to line up that haven't been touched in many, many years is taking a lot of heavy lifting. So I really appreciate that everybody's using the same lens and kind of guiding principles which share common language and how to be the best recipient for whatever money is on the table at whatever level of government. So thank you for that, Talmage. Chair, I yield at this time. CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Any other questions or comments? Mr. Richards. MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. Talmage, thanks for being here today. You know, sitting here listening, your plates been a little full from last couple of years, and I fully appreciate that. And we're talking about the plans going forward, and I think if we ever get to a point where we're not dealing with an emergency, maybe we'll actually be able to get to work on some of the plans. In the meantime, you know I've talked about this, and specifically to the CERT and the repeaters that we have out there. That's part of the process, and I appreciate the fact that everything's been slowed down and all. Are we getting to a stage where we can get that equipment, because it's been sitting there for some time to get that deployed for District 9? Are we getting close? MR. MAGNO: We are getting close. We've got all the equipment in finally, and it's just a matter of finding the time. You know, we want to do the installations right. And the thing about it is if we go, and we are going to go into County and State sites for these repeaters. More importantly, you know, the State sites, we're going to make sure agreements are in place. And then we've got the certified professionals putting the installation in. So, you know, we kind of added a little bit more to the project's scope, but you know, Hamakua is adding some repeaters as well. So, we're going to be in the mode once we get some time of getting repeaters in. As far as the timeframe, unfortunately, I don't have it for you. Page 13 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MR. RICHARDS: Talmage, that's an honest answer up front, and I appreciate that. As you know, this has been something we've been talking about now for probably 18 months or so. Again, if we can nudge that forward; if I can help getting to some of those agreements crafted. And Hamakua, that's great because actually I think that may actually tie in these repeaters even further. So, I don't know, I'll have to look at the geography. But anyway, whatever we can do to move that forward for the planning, let me know what I can do to help, alright? Thanks Chair, I yield. Relinquish Chair: At this time, the Chair relinquished the chair to Vice Chair Eoff. ACTING CHR. EOFF: Excuse me, Ms. Villegas had to leave so I'm assuming the Chair for the remainder of this Committee Meeting. I think, if there is no further discussion, or is there any further discussion? Hearing none, then I'll go ahead and ask for a vote to close file on Communication 825. All in favor please say "aye." Vote on Comm. 825: The motion to close file on Comm. 825 was carried by Filed the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Richards, and Acting Chair Eoff— 7. Noes: None. Absent: Committee Members Poindexter and Villegas — 2. Excused: None. ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries and we can move on to Communication 997. Mr. Clerk. Comm. 997: REQUESTS A DISCUSSION WITH DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL FARSHAD TALEBI REGARDING HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN HAWAII COUNTY From Council Member Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, dated June 30, 2020. Motion to Close File: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to close file on Comm. 997. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy. ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, go ahead. MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Mahalo, Chair. So about a month ago, I was introduced to Mr. Talebi, as I call him now, "Sha." He is the new State Human Trafficking Coordinator under the Attorney General. I've also come to learn that this is a very important issue for Attorney General Connors (Clare E. Connors) in Page 14 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 regards to Trafficking in our State. And there's funding being provided to the State and the Counties as well. Our community right now is in a state of awareness, strength, fear, and a little bit of confusion. My responsibility as an elected official is to ensure the safety of our citizens, especially our keiki. Sha today has graciously, you know, offered to do a presentation to our Council regarding trafficking. I really wanted to have him come and present to the whole Council. I've had discussions with him, but I think what he has to offer to us and the community can really clarify what we in the County are doing and kind of help with our discussions that we have, which sometimes can be circular. So, I would like to ask Sha, are you there, Sha? MR. TALEBL I am. Can you guys hear me? (Note: At this time, State Deputy Attorney General Farshad Talebi came forward to address the members of the Committee.) MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We can hear you and we can see you. Thank you for being here today, really appreciate it. Maybe introduce yourself. Give us a little background, and then you can jump into your presentation. MR. TALEBL Aloha, thank you Committee for inviting me. It's a great opportunity to talk to the community. As Council Member said, human trafficking is priority for Attorney General Connors. I was fortunate that recently, she gave me the opportunity to try and expand our department's efforts and really bring together a statewide coordinated effort. And just in terms of short background, I was a prosecutor in Washington State for about ten years; happened to get one of the early cases of human trafficking in the state and the first one in our county. And essentially lead a County protocol where we built up our efforts and aggressively prosecuted human trafficking. So I had numerous trials and prosecuted dozens of cases; worked with dozens of victims. And then I left the Prosecutor's Office and went to Washington State Attorney General's Office, and started and headed the Human Trafficking and Child Exploitation Unit there which is kind of the model, I guess, in terms of my discussion with the Attorney General, and what I'm hoping to kind of continue here. And just about two years ago, I came to Hawaii, and I was the Title IX Coordinator at Leeward Community College, which was a great opportunity, he gave me a lot of insight into the community. So I think that it's been really beneficial in terms of this transition. I don't think I could have come from the Washington State Attorney General's Office and been able to kind of hit the ground running with an understanding more about Hawaii and the community in this population as well. Page 15 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 So, I have a PowerPoint here to go over some slides. I think it generally makes it easier if I can point to some things as I'm talking. I'm happy to take questions at the end, but I'm already longwinded and can talk about human trafficking for hours, so if we start interrupting we'll probably be here all night. (Note: At this time, Mr. Talebi provided a PowerPoint presentation to the members of the Committee. For viewing of the subject presentation, see the DVD copy of the meeting proceedings on file in the Clerk's Office. A copy of the PowerPoint presentation is made a part of the record, See Comm. 997.1) MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I'm just going to mention to everybody too, that in your add-on communications, you should have the PowerPoint he's going to go over. So, while he's getting ready. For some of us, you know, I have a hard time seeing the screen, so the PowerPoint presentation is helpful if you want to see what he's going to be presenting today. There's some really good facts in here as well. And thank you for doing this again, Sha. MR. TALEBL Hopefully I wasn't too long, but I'm open for any questions if people are still around. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We are still here and we're listening. Okay, well, Sha, mahalo for your presentation. But what I really appreciate is that you really just lay it out. Traffic is happening and it's time to address solutions, and then on top of that, you came with solutions. And that I appreciate because a lot of times we have meetings, and the meetings come off and there's really nothing actionable to walk away from. So thank you for providing at least, you know, something for the Council to work on. And not just for our County but for every county; for anyone who watches this. You also made yourself readily available to members of the community who reached out to myself, but who are scared for different reasons. You know, retaliation, because this really is a sensitive subject. So I appreciate that you made yourself available. And again, I do appreciate A.G. (Attorney General) Connors bringing you in and giving you a position. And how long have you been in now? Two months? Two -and -a -half months? MR. TALEBL Yeah, just over two months. So, it's been an interesting transition with working remotely and things like that. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: It has been for all of us. I'm happy to have you here. I have a couple questions for you, then I'll leave off to the rest of the Council. You know, stemming from our conversation with Lieutenant Finkey, are repeat runaways significant to you in regards to trafficking? Page 16 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MR. TALEBL Yeah, I mean I think what that tells me, and obviously this is not first hand from working any of these cases. But I think generally what that tells me is that those individuals are more comfortable in the streets. They may have a destination that they're going to. So, I would say, anecdotally again, that they're probably more likely to be exploited. Again, that's another reason why when we're looking at investigating and prosecuting these cases, the victims present a lot differently than your traditional victim of a sex crime. Someone that was sexually abused by maybe a family member or something like that. They're very hardened; they're very savvy. They've been in survival mode. You know, they call it "tricks" for a reason, because if they're having sex with ten men a day, seven days a week. You know, in terms of trying to be safe. Get in and out as quick as possible. And then, you know, navigating the continued abuse and control of the pimps. They present a lot differently. And so, yeah, I would say that—we know a few things, right? They clearly don't have a stable environment that they're going back to, which makes them continue to run. But also, I would guess that they have a destination. There's a reason why they're running other than just a one-off time. So, I think even though that does reduce potentially the number of what we'd signify as, you know, missing or runaways. I think those individuals—and that's why I hope if we can—we're purchasing a pretty advanced data platform. And so those are the individuals in particular that I'd like to track more in things like, you know, if we get our patrol and those in law enforcement who are recovering them to note things like, who are they with; where are they? Then we start seeing, you know, maybe trends that way, and we can start identifying potential, high-risk places or faces that way. So, yeah, I think that's a good question. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Then, you know, kind of following that, kind of where you just took that a little bit. You know, how can our County help make sure that we're investigating the cases to bring about the prosecutions? MR. TALEBL Yeah, so I do think consistency is really important. So again, one of my goals is trying to figure out where those gaps are between the service providers and advocates, and then the system. And a lot of times, we would say about five contacts with law enforcement or the system before they even start opening up. And what's important though, is at those contacts they're being told kind of the same message, right? We're concerned about your safety, we have resources for you; here's information. They may say, "I'm not interested." You know, "I'm not a victim." But eventually, that's how, you know, we build up trust. And so, I guess what's helpful in terms of community members. Let's say parents that are concerned that their kids are being trafficked or involved. Social media is very important. Again, we have a lot of tools, with warrants, with Page 17 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 geolocation data, social media, a lot of these apps that—even over gaming platforms there's recruiting going on; dating apps; Instagram, things like that. So I've had concerned parents who have been tracking, you know, their kids' social media and being able to forward that. Just something as simple as a phone number; a social media handle. That can get us going with the investigation without even talking to the potential victim or individual. So, for both service providers, for community members, if you're seeing online activity again, because so much is based on that, that's helpful for us. We can potentially start following up. And then also, again, I haven't been able to do a clear assessment because it's not business as usual. But the storefront brothels, like massage parlors. If you're seeing any businesses like that, that are opened pass 11 o'clock or something like that. You know, those are brothels. Those are not legitimate massage establishments or spas. And so that type of information is helpful. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you. You know, how many trafficking cases have ever been closed in our state? MR. TALEBL I can say that since the statute was amended to sex trafficking, I want to say, 2014, I might be guessing on that, there have not been any prosecutions under that statute. That's obviously something I'd like to change. Promoting prostitution, which is a Class E felony, there have been very few of those cases. I know that your local law enforcement is prosecuting a couple big cases right now. And there's a lot of cases that have been prosecuted that probably involves sexual exploitation, but they're being prosecuted under other crimes. So you know, in terms of specifically charging, improving and convicting people for trafficking; promoting prostitution and purchasing sex; and sex buyers with minors, not many. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: That kind of speaks to where we need to be headed, in my mind, yeah? And I appreciate your time, because you could be doing that right now instead of talking to us, but here you are. So mahalo. Were you involved in the Operation Keiki Shield at all, or members of your team? MR. TALEBL Yeah, our ICAC (Internet Crimes Against Children) unit is the investigative unit that started those operations. So, I think what's really cool about it as well is that they are bringing in multiple agencies. So Hawaii PD (Police Department), a few officers joined the operation that was in Kauai. And so, it was actually they got training from some of the detectives in Washington, and basically just hit the ground running out here. And so, I think it's a great way for, you know, ICAC, as you saw is pretty small. There's four special agent investigators and the commander. And these operations involve, you know, 15 or Page 18 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 20 law enforcement. And so, it's really a way to demonstrate and get it local, State, and Federal together. And then also, you know, the model is and hopefully they'll be able to come in and do one in the County of Hawaii. But, it's an opportunity to work cases and learn as you go. It builds up confidence. I think a lot of times if we're just doing webinars or going to different seminars and things like that, you walk away maybe excited and you have some new ideas, but it doesn't necessarily lead to the next week investigating a case. So, that's a similar model. I'm hoping to do, in terms of expanding the human trafficking cases, where we can come out and work actual cases with the local law enforcement prosecutors. They've been really effective. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, and that's really good to hear. Actually that's our next step. So, I think it's important for the community to know too, is that we're here and we're supporting moving forward with this and taking care of what's happening in our community even if we can't see it. MR. TALEBL And I will say the Hawaii PD and the Prosecutor's Office were really excited to get a Keiki Shield going. But all of that with COVID kind of got delayed. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, so it's coming? MR. TALEBL It's coming. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, I'll yield for now. Thank you, Sha, I appreciate it. ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, and thank you for the presentation. Yes, Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG: Yeah, I've got some questions. ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead. MR. CHUNG: Good afternoon, Sha. Thanks for making your presentation. You know, I'm kind of wondering, based on your two months over there. And I know it's going to be difficult, but where the heck are these pimps coming from? Are they from the mainland, local, Asia, or you don't know? Or I mean, I'm sure it's a combination of all of that, but what do you know about where these guys are coming from? MR. TALEBL So generally, I divide it into domestic and international. And so, the international -based trafficking again is a lot of storefront residential brothels. So the massage parlor spas. What we realized in Washington, we had a three-year investigation and our initial assumption was these were like "mom and pop" Page 19 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 shops, but it's a pretty sophisticated international criminal enterprise. So it's almost like franchise models. So ultimately, the arrest and take-down, it was 30 that were all connected. And so that's a unique problem in itself. I know it's a huge problem on Oahu. I think we identified over 100 here. And again, I can't necessarily speak to the outer islands, but in terms of whether the pimps are local or from the mainland I will tell you, I get a lot of law enforcement from back in Washington from partners I know in Northern California and Southern California saying that there are definitely pimps. Coming out here, some of them again, bring their girls out here. And some of them will just come and recruit. I had a jail call sent to me from a detective in Seattle a few months ago where it was a pimp that was in custody and he was talking to a victim that he had who was born and raised on the Big Island and he was talking about when he got out he wanted to head out there and make some money. So, there definitely is kind of West Coast circuit. So there's definitely individuals from the mainland coming out here. MR. CHUNG: But, are they brining their own crew or recruiting here? MR. TALEBL Both. MR. CHUNG: As far as you can tell, what's more likely? What's the percentage? I mean it's very difficult to say, but what do you think? MR. TALEBL Yeah, six months I could give you a better idea. I would say of those individualsI would guess that they would probablyI don't know, I mean Hawaii is unique, right, geographically. And so, what I will say though is that it isn't cheap and it isn't a quick trip. So they're coming out here because it's profitable. So that's something we have to change. In terms of traffickers or pimps born and raised here, there's a lot of that as well. So, it could be drug dealers. Again, obviously we have a problem; large methamphetamine problem, and as you know, a lot of times it goes hand and hand with those criminal enterprises. So games, other criminal organizations. MR. CHUNG: Well, that's another thing. Is there organized crime tied into this? MR. TALEBL I am not able to speak personally. Like I said, I haven't been able, you know, to get into any investigations at this point. A lot of it's been coordinating with partners and assessing. MR. CHUNG: Okay, well, I know you've only been on the job for a little while and you're still in that assessment mode. I understand. How about, try to describe this storefront operation. I mean it conjures up, you know, visions of Page 20 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 what you have in those other countries that have—you know, but what's a storefront operation in Hawaii? MR. TALEBL Okay, so I use the term storefront brothel because I think that's most accurate. I think if we say, you know, elicit massage, then people get the sense that it's normalized, right? It's primarily adults, but the reason why we should care again is, these are vulnerable individuals that were recruited from countries and specifically certain parts of South East Asia where they lived in poverty. They were basically coerced or, you know, recruited over. When they get here they're told they're in debt and then they're just funneled into these businesses. And so, the general setup, there's generally four or five women that are workers. They'll work 12 plus hours a day. You have a manager who people refer to as a "mama-san." You have people that are transporting them. A lot of times they'll hold their documents, and so the vulnerability again. MR. CHUNG: So basically, under the guise of some kind of massage parlor. Massage, it say's or something? No? MR. TALEBL Correct. MR. CHUNG: So then in that case and, you know, I have to confess, I haven't read the Star Advertiser for a while. But, you know, in that Sports section in the past they had all kinds of ads. I mean, I've got to believe those were what we're talking about, right? How could that be allowed? MR. TALEBL Well, not on County property, but if you want to go and search the website. It's called Rubmaps, and essentially what that is like a Yelp review site for patrons of these storefront brothels. And so, you can put in your address; see if there's any around you. It's a whole like almost culture where they're very prevalent around the country. And so, if you go in there you know what it is. But I think, again, it gets back to what we've done historically and culturally, which is kind of normalize this culture of—well, prostitution is the oldest profession in the world, and that's just not the reality, right? And even if we put it in the context of, you know, a normal job. There's a reason why a boss can't offer a raise in exchange for a sexual favor. MR. CHUNG: Anyway, but, I'm not a social media guy, okay? But, I'm just talking about the newspaper. There's a lot of ads or were a lot of ads in the newspapers. I mean, wouldn't it be easy, and I know there was a big, I don't know if you'd call it a bust or sting operation maybe about a year ago or little less. But, I mean, wouldn't that be an advertisement or a notice to the Police, the law enforcement or even the Attorney General's Office to take a look at these operations? I mean, I just want to know what's being done at the State law enforcement level. Page 21 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MR. TALEBL Yeah, so I know the County Prosecutor's Office here in Honolulu has been trying to close down these massage parlors. I think there's a lot of tactics including civil penalties, civil suits, asset forfeitures; again looking at Code and things like that to basically disrupt the market. But then, also hopefully, it takes a lot of resources to do an indepth investigation. But again, that's something that was an initiative for me because of that large scale case we had in Washington. So I am really eager to address that issue. But again, it's going to take a little bit in term so building relationships for me with Federal and local law enforcement because internally, the resources I have of the ICAC team which is focused on crimes against children. So, it's definitely something that's on my agenda. MR. CHUNG: And you know, from an economic analysis standpoint, what's the human trafficking exploitation situation, maybe in a place like Nevada where they have legalized prostitution in several areas, I guess? Or are the people who are providing the services are all victims of sex trafficking there? I mean what do you know about that? MR. TALEBL In terms of areas that are legalized? I can say almost every case; every major pimp that I've prosecuted, they would do their rounds through Nevada because it's easy money for them. MR. CHUNG: So in other words, legalization is not the answer. MR. TALEBL Absolutely not. MR. CHUNG: Okay, right. MR. TALEBL It's the reverse. MR. CHUNG: Okay, I just wanted to get that off the table, right? MR. TALEBL Yes. There's no model. MR. CHUNG: And then, you know, with regard to right now on our island, there's a lot of talk about kidnappings. Putting zip -ties on the cars. What do you know about kidnappings and if it's happening at all locally, and if it is happening, are become victims of this sex trafficking? MR. TALEBL I would say, it's pretty rare to have trafficking cases where individuals were initially drawn into it through an abduction or kidnapping. I'm not going to say it doesn't happen, but a lot more is through that coercion. You know, the individual—there's a community member that testified earlier about, you know, his wife who didn't have custody, I think. I've seen that; I've seen Page 22 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 other versions of the kidnapping. I would say that's more case-by-case, and I can't say that that is a significant way that individuals end up getting victimized in sex trafficking at least. MR. CHUNG: Okay, I mean you're familiar with that situation we had at Home Depot, right? About a week or two ago. You know about that? MR. TALEBL Yeah, I heard a little bit about it. MR. CHUNG: Things are getting crazy over here on this island. Yeah, I mean because of, I think, misinformation or whatever. I don't know but it's just getting kind of crazy. Because I have a 16 -year-old daughter and she shows me, you know, something on social media, and some person who was involved in that declaring that there was a big to-do. And I just looked at them and said, "Well, you still got to be careful." But I don't know about that. And it turned out to be, you know, what I thought. MR. TALEBL Yeah, the zip -tie thing, I had asked a survivor that works for one of the service provider that works for one of the service provider organizations and she said she hasn't seen any legitimacy to that. It seems like more of a "boogie -man" scare tactic, but I'm relying on her with that. I hadn't heard about that until recently. MR. CHUNG: Second to the last question. How are you going to measure the success of your program at some point? What are going to be the measurables? MR. TALEBL Yeah, so obviously, prosecutions. So when I left the County Prosecutor's Office, it went from that first case to probably had over 50 pending; and prosecuted dozens and dozens. And a lot of jurisdictions, they're at the point of, you know, it's kind of like shooting fish in a barrel, especially on the demand side. So, I think we can significantly increase prosecutions. My goal, again, I'll be prosecuting cases, but I'll also consider it a success if just State-wide, whether it's Federal, State or local. In terms of kind of the other things. So, I have a six-month, one-year, two-year type plan. So one of the things is establishing a website for the State for resources, so an easy user-friendly. So starting to develop that now. Again, more high-level data collection, both on law enforcement and non -law enforcement side, which can help, right, when you guys are doing meetings and trying to determine your policy the more data we have for you, the better. Getting statewide protocols. So again, we have an institutional structure in terms of, if we have, you know, somebody from HPD (Hawai`i Police Department) patrol that responds, recovers an individual, then they suspect that they could be a victim of exploitation. They have a person to call. We have service providers ready to go, and we have the strategy and protocols in place. Statewide screening tool, which Page 23 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 we can basically implement with any organizations, agencies; you know, hospitals that have contact with victims so that we're tracking it and assessing it consistently. Trainings, you know, I'm hoping to have all the County prosecutors and law enforcement, at minimum annual trainings. So those are some of the upcoming deliverables I'm working on. MR. CHUNG: So if you came back in a year, you'd probably be able to hook up the measurables with the delivery. Correct? MR. TALEBL Yes. So when you bring me back in a year, I'll have something to deliver. MR. CHUNG: Right, good. I mean, because this is very important. And you know, the last thing, I don't know if it's a question or a comment. But, you know, you talked about us doing some things at the County Council level. But, you know, the fact of the matter is, the Penal Code is a State Penal Code, right? And I will say this, I mean, everything has to be done at the State level, but I give you my assurances that anything that you do that tries to add to the State Penal Code, you have my 100 percent support. And I think most others on this body, but that's where you have to focus your attention, right? The Hawaii Revised Statutes, yeah? Okay. MR. TALEBL So just you're aware and I will bring it to you for signature and support, but I plan to have a legislative package; kind of a comprehensive, and hopefully reform to some of these statutes to be able to make us more effective. But, I don't know if you actually do any of the local zoning ordinances, but those and again, County policies, employee policies, I think are areas you guys can look at as well. And I'm happy to help. MR. CHUNG: Well, for sure, yeah. But these things are not really out in the open, it's very difficult for us to enact zoning ordinances that are going to address these types of situations without trying to, you know, have unintended consequences. You know, it's going to take a lot of thought, and we're going to have to see how these things play out. You know, now that it's becoming more at the forefront of the public's attention. You know, in part because of what you and AG Connors are doing. So thank you very much. Okay, thanks. MR. TALEBL Thank you. ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Are there any other questions or comments in Hilo? MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Not at this time, Chair. I'm good. Mahalo, Sha, I appreciate it. Alright, Sha, did you want to close with anything? We don't have any more questions on this side. Anything else you'd also like to add before we sign off? Page 24 PSC -11 July 21, 2020 MR. TALEBL No. I was just saying, mahalo, and hopefully next time, I can be there in person. Thank you for having me. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mahalo. I appreciate your time today. We're supposed to start at 3:00 and it's 5:00 -something. So thank you for making the time for us, and keep plugging away at it, and we'll back you up however we can over here. MR. TALEBI: Sounds good. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Sha. You're getting an applause from outside too. Just to let you know. ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. And we'll go ahead and vote and close file on Communication 997. All in favor say "aye." Vote on Comm. 997: The motion to close file on Comm. 997 was carried by Filed the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Richards, and Acting Chair Eoff — 7. Noes: None. Absent: Committee Members Poindexter and Villegas —2. Excused: None. ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions. (There were none.) BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances. (There were none.) ACTING CHR. EOFF: And now I would like to ask for a motion to adjourn. Page 25 PSC-11 July 21,2020 ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 5:12 p.m., Ms. David moved to adjourn MENT: the meeting. Seconded by Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder and carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Richards, and Acting Chair Eoff—7. Noes: None. Absent: Committee Members Poindexter and Villegas—2. Excused: None. ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries and this meeting is adjourned. Have a safe evening. Approved: September 1p. 2020 s. Resecca Vil egas, Chair (Date) Public Safety Committee RV/dt Page 26