HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN COUNCIL 2020-10-21 2018-2020 Hawaii County Council
541h Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
October 21, 2020
INVOCATION: Kahu Kealoha Ka`opua of Calvary Community Church in Kona gave the
morning's invocation.
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Hawaii County Council was called to order at
ORDER: 9:05 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Kailua-Kona, by Ms. Karen Eoff, Acting
Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung, Chair(via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Karen Eoff, Vice Chair
Ms. Maile Medeiros David, Member
Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member(via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Valerie T. Poindexter, Member
Mr. Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Member(via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member
PLEDGE OF The Acting Chair directed the Council to the next order of business, Pledge of
ALLEGIANCE: Allegiance.
(At this time, Ms. David led the Council in the Pledge of
Allegiance.)
PETITIONS, The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
MEMORIALS, Petitions, Memorials, Certificates of Merit, and Expressions of Condolence.
CERTIFICATES
OF MERIT, AND (There were none.)
EXPRESSIONS OF
CONDOLENCE:
STATEMENTS The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Acting Chair:
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Kalani Lyman: Res. 732-20 (Comm. 1073), in support.
Chris Yuen: Res. 732-20 (Comm. 1073), in support.
Noelie Rodriguez: Res. 732-20 (Comm. 1073), in support.
Sandra Demoruelle: Res. 741-20 (Comm. 1091), in opposition.
(See Comm. 1091.2)
Jerome Warren: Res. 741-20 (Comm. 1091), in opposition.
Cory Harden: Res. 732-20 (Comm. 1073), in support.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you.
MS. AIELLO: Thank you, Madam Chair. That was it but I just wanted to
announce to the testifiers that are watching: We're going to remove you from the
meeting now. So, if you want to continue viewing the meeting,please go to the
livestream online, the County's streaming page. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Then I guess at this point, we can close
public testimony. I was thinking we might want to take Bills 200 and 201 out of
order at some point. Maybe not right at first, but just because there's people here
waiting. And also if there are any other people from the Administration or
anyone in Hilo, that you can let me know,please, if we should take some of the
other items out of order. But I know Ms. Poindexter wants to take Resolution 732
in order, so how about we just start from the top and I'll take those two things and
then see if we need to skip down. So, Communication 1101.
APPROVAL The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
OF MINUTES: Approval of Minutes.
(There were none.)
COMMUNI- The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 1101: REPORT OF ATTENDANCE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS DAVID, EOFF,
KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER, AND VILLEGAS AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL
MANAGEMENT COMMISSION MEETING HELD VIA ZOOM
CONFERENCING ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2020, PURSUANT TO HAWAII
REVISED STATUTES SECTION 92-2.5(e)
From Council Member Rebecca Villegas, dated September 23, 2020.
Motion to Close Ms. Villegas moved to close file on Comm. 1101.
File: Seconded by Ms. David.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: It's pretty self-explanatory. You just need to maybe
restate the purpose.
MS. VILLEGAS: I just wanted to let everybody know that we participated in a
meeting at the Environmental Management Commission via Zoom conferencing
on September 23rd. And so, we just wanted to make sure everybody knew that we
were all in attendance in order to avoid any Sunshine Law violation potential.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Any other comments? Hearing none, all in favor please
say "aye."
Vote on The motion to close file on Comm. 1101 was carried by
Comm. 1101: the following voice vote:
Filed
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, motion carries.
ORDER OF The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
Res. 732-20: AUTHORIZES PROCEEDINGS IN EMINENT DOMAIN FOR THE
ACQUISITION OF A PERPETUAL, UNOBSTRUCTED, NON-EXCLUSIVE
EASEMENT FOR PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN INGRESS AND EGRESS
THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY, BEING A PORTION OF TAX MAP
KEY NUMBERS: 2-7-004-118 AND 2-7-027-065, SITUATED AT
PAPA`IKOU, SOUTH HILO, ISLAND OF HAWAII, TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE BEACH AT PAPA`IKOU
Authorizes the Corporation Counsel to initiate proceedings in eminent domain for
the taking, acquisition, and condemnation of private property for the purpose of
expanding public access to the beach area located at the end of Mill Road.
Reference: Comm. 1073
Intr. by: Ms. Poindexter
Approve: FC-141
Note: First of two required readings,
Section 101-13, Hawaii Revised Statutes
Motion to Approve: Ms. Poindexter moved to adopt Res. 732-20 and Finance
Committee Report No. 141. Seconded by Ms. David.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. Poindexter
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah and I think we had a nice, healthy discussion in our
Committee meeting, so I don't have to continue explaining. I think it's self-
explanatory. We also heard from the testifiers, and I just ask for your support.
Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Ms. Poindexter. Are there any other
comments or questions, Council Members?
MR. CHUNG: Yeah, Karen. It's me, Aaron.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Not to belabor the point, but I just want to reiterate what I said the
last time about—first of all, I'm going to support this. I think it's a good thing to
allow the public access to that area. But I'm still kind of wondering out loud why
this has to be an eminent domain proceeding. The last time, Mr. Kamelamela was
here and said that it's difficult to doI'm just thinking out loud—maybe a quiet
title.
All the testifiers spoke in terms of the public's right to have access to that beach.
Now, if there's no legal avenue for the public to have those rights protected in a
legal forum, where do we go to protect our rights? If it is a right, there has to be
some sort of legal avenue other than an eminent domain. Because if we do
eminent domain, as Mr. Yuen stated, then you don't have to go full compliance
with ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990). What does that mean?
That must mean partial compliance. So, there are all these different factors that
have to be considered. I think it's a good option to have, but I still think the
Corporation Counsel's office should be directed to also explore other options that
aren't going to cost the County money and to assert and protect the rights of the
public. That's just my thought. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you, Mr. Chung. Ms. Poindexter.
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah and I appreciate that because when you talk about
cost. However, we talk about being able to work it out with people who come to
this island and buy up our shoreline access or even our mountain access, for the
hunters. It would be great if we could work it out and they could understand that,
but this has been a battle with the landowners. And if we have to go through it
this way, I say do it because we need the access. And throughout Hamakua,
we're struggling with all of that.
And I'm hoping that this is going to be an eye opener for a lot of landowners who
have blocked the access that our communities have had for generations. And so,
anyway, that's my thought on it but I do appreciate Chair Chung's input on this.
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To some degree, I agree. But again, it's how well we can work it out with the
landowners. And in this case, it was almost impossible. So, I yield at this time.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you, Ms. Poindexter.
MR. CHUNG: Karen, it's me again.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, go ahead, Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah, I want to make sure that everybody understands what I'm
saying over here. If we're trying to assert a right, that doesn't mean we have to
work things out with the landowner. Even Val just mentioned the public's access
many years to that property. To me, that indicates that there are prescriptive
rights that have gone on for hundreds of years, or maybe about at least a hundred
years or more. I'm not saying we've got to work it out.
When you're talking about prescriptive easements or the rights of the public to
access a parcel, no, I'm not in any way suggesting that's something to work out.
I'm just suggesting that there has to be another way to go and assert the public's
right because this one, eminent domain is we're taking over ownership over a
property. The other one is we are asserting or protecting the rights of the public.
That's two different concepts. Both will get us to the same place, but I'm just
thinking the prescriptive rights avenue is probably the best way to go. That's all
I'm saying. But I'm not saying to work it out or anything like that. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Ms. Poindexter just wanted to
comment(inaudible).
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah and I agree with that. And the problem is State
versus County, right? In a lot of cases, the State will have to do something so that
we can have that right. And the public felt that we should be working with the
County versus the State. And we looked at State law. So, everything was done
with the consultation of Corp. (Corporation) Counsel. And through the yearsI
mean, I've been in office eight years. I've been doing this for eight years. And
this happened prior to me. So, a lot of times, working it out with the State is real
difficult to do. And I think taking County action for the people of Hawaii
County was the right way to go. So, anyway, thank you. Aloha.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Thank you, Chair. Could I ask Ms. Poindexter a question? Is that
all right?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Sure, go ahead.
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MS. DAVID: Yes. Ms. Poindexter, a testifier referred to a litigation that
happened years ago when this first started, and that's why this resulted in where
we stand right now in eminent domain. The litigation was—what was the court
decision on that? Do you know if they directed you folks to go back and do an
eminent domain or ?
MS. POINDEXTER: No, they directed us this time. This is the only time we
went to court on this case. And when it was first brought forward, it was brought
forward by Council Member Dominic Yagong working with Chris Yuen. So,
Chris Yuen helped to draft that and worked through our Corp. Counsel—whoever
Corp. Counsel was at that time—and then worked through this process, then it
went to court. So, it was just I forget what month it was. Joe, are you in the
chambers? If you couldI don't know the exact dates.
MS. DAVID: I'm just curious. I mean, I understand. In fact, I really agree with
Chair Chung's statement about this being prescriptive easement rights and
inherent rights. And that is something that exists. And so, I'm curious what the
court said in sending you folks back to do an eminent domain. I'm confused with
that.
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, the court didn't send us back. We could have
appealed the decision and we chose to bring a new case forward. Joe, are you
there?
MR. BROWN: Mr. Kamelamela is not in the Hilo chamber.
MS. POINDEXTER: Okay. Is Chris Yuen still available by ? No, he's not?
Because, he's been there through it all. Yeah, I don't know.
MS. DAVID: Okay, no, I really support this. I just agree that the method that
Corp. Counsel is suggesting—eminent domain—my question is, in the general
public and the native community in asserting these inherent rights, especially on
an existing trail that has been used and understood that it existed there prior to this
current owner and been used as such. I'm going to support this but it just seems
that another right or another form of litigation to confirm that. So, I'm just I can
get my answers later on, but I just really think that there is some substance to the
method that we're doing this because inherent and prescriptive rights last forever.
The County will definitely own this portion of the property through an eminent
domain proceeding. So, I just have that question.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David, this
MR. CHUNG: Karen?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mr. Chung.
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MR. CHUNG: Yeah. I wish I was there so you guys could see me because I'm
not trying to throw a monkey wrench into this mechanism here. I fully support
the intent and I support the measure. But what happened is, with that first matter
when it went to court, I think it was thrown out because of a defective resolution,
which has been corrected by Val, to her credit. So, I'm not saying that this is bad.
I'm just saying that we should explore other options as well, not exclusive of this
thing, not to exclude the eminent domain measure. But they both can be
considered.
It just troubles me when people talk about rights. And if I had a right and my
lawyer told me, "Well, we can't do anything to protect your rights,"that kind of
flies in the face of everything that I hold dear. And I know for Maile, she gets it.
And I know Karen gets it too because they're involved in the past decision. So,
when you have rights, we should be able to assert those rights and protect those
rights, and that's all I'm saying. But I'm not trying to say "no"to this matter.
I'm just saying we should explore all options. That's all. Thank you.
MS. POINDEXTER: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. Poindexter.
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah and I hear you guys. I've been through some of the
conferences and they talk about the past case and all of that. But in this, I mean,
they don't have this organized body, from what I saw, that would be able to lead
that like with what you guys did, unless we have somebody like that coming and
working that out—and how many years. I mean, how long did it take you guys
from start to finish? No, from start, when you guys were lobbying and picketing?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Twenty years.
MS. POINDEXTER: About 20 years, right? It's different.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: I don't think Mr. Chung is suggesting one over the other
but just to explore all the options.
MS. POINDEXTER: No, but what I'm saying is because you guys are using that.
But then for our people, can we do that? Do we havea lot of the people are in
their they're kupuna already. And then some of the younger ones too. But
people coming from all over the island to utilize this place. But you cannot
compare it, to me, to that case because you guys had a great organized body and
was able to execute it in a way. But it took over 20 years. I'll listen to more of
what you may have to say. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you.
MR. BROWN: Excuse me, Madam Chair?
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes?
MR. BROWN: I just got a message from Corporation Counsel. Joe is on his
way. He should be here very shortly.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, great. Thank you. Ms. David wanted to chime in
again unless there's someone else
MS. POINDEXTER: Oh, Chris Yuen's here.
MS. DAVID: Yeah.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: And I see Chris Yuen is here too.
MS. DAVID: Yes, thank you, Chair. I totally understand what you're saying,
Val, about that. It's not that I don't support this. I do. And the rights of the
people to access and gather is definitely the high point of my supporting this.
And I will support this. Make no doubt about that. It is my question to
Corporation Counsel that once we support this and this passes, does that preclude
anyone from doing anything else to assist in getting the access recognized and
keep it going, as opposed to an eminent domain? I just want to know that we
have options because rights are rights, whether we exercise them or not. And so,
if Joe can answer that question, if there's options to pass this as is, which I
support, can someone still take an issue about the inherent and prescriptive rights
to support this along the way?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: And Chris Yuen is there.
MS. POINDEXTER: Madam Chair, Chris Yuen is onscreen and I think Maile
early on had some questions about the very onset of this resolution, which I was
not in office at that time, and it didn't go to court until much later. But, Chris,
you're there. Did you hear the questions and are you listening to the discussion,
and would you like to chime in on that?
(Note: At this time, Mr. Chris Yuen came forward to address the
members of the Council, via videoconferencing.)
MR. YUEN: Yes, I did hear the discussion and those are all very good questions.
And I understand exactly where Council Chair Chung and Council
Member David are coming from with these questions. Unfortunately, when
establishing a prescriptive easement—and I did look at this some years ago and I
talked to a number of people who had used Papa`ikou beach over the years.
The Hawaii Supreme Court's last decision on prescriptive easements basically
said that you had to establish the people used the same path for over 20 years,
exactly the same path. And it just seemed difficult to prove that they had used
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exactly the same path for over 20 years. They'd used a number of paths to the
beach. And unless the Supreme Court—but this is a difficulty with establishing a
prescriptive easement. Some of those paths don't exist now or are not feasible to
use now because of overgrowth. And also, I think,possibly because of the
construction of the zigzagging trail down to the beach by the owners may have
obliterated parts of a path that had existed in the past. So, that's the basic reason
why the people that I've been working with looked at eminent domain rather than
a separate court case for prescriptive easements.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Ms. David, you still have the floor.
MS. DAVID: Thank you, Mr. Yuen, for that. That explains a lot. And so, that
explains why we're here. Okay. No, I won't change my mind. I will support
this, Ms. Poindexter. I will because that's a subject matter that is very important,
I feel, not for just this resolution but for everyone it affects.
Corp. Counseloh, I see Mr. Kamelamela. Mr. Kamelamela, I just have one
more question for you, and that is, if we move forward on this eminent domain
proceedings resolution, does that preclude anyone from also seeking other
remedies to establish the native tenant rights to access and gather and that sort of
thing? Does this preclude someone from doing that down the line?
(Note: At this time, Corporation Counsel Joseph Kamelamela came
forward to address the members of the Council, via videoconferencing
from Hilo.)
MR. KAMELAMELA: Good morning.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Good morning.
MS. DAVID: Good morning.
MR. KAMELAMELA: Good morning. Joseph Kamelamela, Corp. Counsel.
No. So, I'm not too sure if I made myself clear the last time, but we had explored
the possibility of also including another count in order to get access for the public
here. So, one way to do it is through condemnation and then the other way is
what Chairman Chung has said. So, nothing precludes us from doing it in a
lawsuit.
MS. DAVID: Okay, thank you very much.
MR. KAMELAMELA: And just to answer your question, sorry, it doesn't
preclude other people from also filing. But I don't see that as a possibility right
now.
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MS. DAVID: Okay. Well, thank you for that. That answers my questions and,
hopefully, this can be resolved further down the line. My concern is precedence
setting to protect native rights to gather and inherent rights to access. This sets a
precedence that it be done by eminent domain down the line. So with that, I
yield, Chair, and I just thank you for your explanation and I will support this.
Mahalo.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Ms. David. Anyone else from Hilo still
wants to comment?
MS. LEE LOY: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead.
MS. LEE LOY: Yeah, Chair, I do. And I'm actually excited right now because
we have Karen and Maile, subject matter experts on the PASH (Public Access
Shoreline Hawaii) decision. Chris Yuen's on the line, who's been a mentor for
me as a planner, and now Joe. And I have just a real simple question. Because, I
absolutely get the prescriptive rights. What we have in front of us is an easement
for eminent domain. And my question is centered around how do we eminent
domain five acres over and across someone's property without impacting the
entire TMK (tax map key)? This is what is very exciting to me because this is
precedent setting in my thought process and my years around land use.
MR. KAMELAMELA: So, actually, the only impact to the property would be
because there is a well-defined path. And so, it's that path that is described in the
maps that we had seen, that it's been involved. So, this is an easement. And so,
we're not taking this fee simple. And we intend to just focus in on the path so,
down the road, to also use similar routes that Parks and Rec. (Recreation) had
used to kind of regulate the area, closure time, making sure that people take care
of the trail. I know that there's community groups lined up already to try to take
care of it.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. I would definitely be watching this one. It's unique
for sure. But with that, I will be supporting this. As Chair Chung said, I still
think we have other avenues because we have rights. As Chris described, maybe
the pathway down has changed on the ground, but there's an inherent right that
they got to the shoreline over and across that property. But with that, Val, I stand
in support with this one, but I'll definitely be watching how this unfolds with the
property owner and the process that the County takes with eminent domain in this
easement. Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Mr. Chung. Oh, I'm sorry,
Mr.
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MR. CHUNG: Are you going to let me talk again? This is my fourth time but I
haven't spoken in three minutes altogether, actually.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay. Do you mind letting someone else go before you?
MR. CHUNG: Sure.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder had his light on—I didn't
notice.
MR. CHUNG: Yes.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Go ahead, Matt.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I appreciate the discussion because I don't
have the history and I don't have the knowledge that my other Council Members
have, and people like Chris Yuen. But just as a surfer, I've been surfing there
since 2001 and the trail that I always use was the same zigzag trail that goes down
there. So, it's disappointing to hear that a court would throw out the case or push
the case back to us because we can't prove that the same trail has been in use.
I mean, with all the State law and things—and precedent and law that was set in
place from the basis of our State Constitution that protects our rights and
Hawaiian rights to access and gather and everything else, and yet the court would
kind of disregard that and say, "Well, you can't prove that you've used this for
25 years or 20 years for the same path." And I'm very disappointed in that
decision.
Just the other day, having a discussion with a community member, the same style
of thinking where you have to prove that this has been an area that's been used for
a certain thing for a number of years. And the thought process that I received
was, why should we have to prove anything? We still use it and we're a living
culture. Why is this constant need for proof needed? It's disappointing. It's
really disappointing to me.
Being new to the Council and understanding law and not having been through the
past decisions like Maile and Karen, I would think that what we afford by law
should be followed. And to see slight variations given and to see community
members who fish, who surf, who go to places that were shown to them by their
parents and their parents' parents' parents' parents, and you have to go back and
prove that to get a property owner to provide access to the property or the place
that you fished at since you were a kid, to me it's discouraging and it's
disappointing. So, I think the State should get their whatever you want to call it in
order and provide that access to the public that's granted by law, and stop playing
games.
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And this place in particular has been fought over for so long. And we have to
come to a point where we have to do eminent domain in a resolution from a court
case to fight the home or the property owner for our public's right to access a
place that's been used for more than 20 years. To me, that's discouraging. That
is a failure at many different levels. So, I fully support this and it never should
have come to this point. And maybe there's different methods we should have
taken, but I don't think it should even come back to the Council. I think the court
system should have figured this out in the beginning.
That is just my humble opinion as a new Council Member, but this has been going
on for hundreds of years. And I think, "Enough already!" So, that is my input for
today. Val, thank you for bringing this forward. I fully support this. And good
job. And for the community,just keep pushing because this is stupidity at its best.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mahalo. Let me go back to Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah, thank you for letting me—can you hear me?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah, thank you for letting me speak again, Karen. And
hopefully, I can alleviate some of Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder's disappointment.
When Chris Yuen spoke of that Supreme Court decision, he wasn't speaking
about this issue, this parcel in particular. He was speaking about precedent, I'm
pretty sure, because this thing never went to court on that issue. But what he said
was he's used that zigzag trail for a long time.
So, really, what this thing is going to come down to is a factual determination as
to where that trail exists. And if it was a series of trails, that's okay too. Nobody
said that it has to be on one exact line or a zigzag line. It could be a series of
zigzag trails leading down to the beach. But Chris was not talking about a court
case involving this parcel. I want to make sure that everybody understands that.
And I've got to, first of all, reiterate that I'm in full support of whatever measure
it takes to get the public access to this property. And if eminent domain is the
way, then so be it. But Val talked about, oh, if we go protecting the constitutional
rights and prescriptive rights, that's going to take 20 years like PASH's decision
took. Look, we've already been over 8 years with this eminent domain thing. So,
what's to say we're not going to be here 8 years from now and saying the same
thing? We've got to make sure we pinpoint the solution to this matter so that we
can move quickly.
An eminent domain proceeding, I'm not an expert in this area but I know there's
two elements to it. You have to have a finding of a public purpose, and you have
to have just compensation paid to the landowner. If you go constitutional rights,
well, not constitutionalI guess it would be State constitutional rights there's
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no compensation to the landowner. Okay? And it's not the cost factor that I'm
looking at. I'm just, again, saying that if we have a right, why the heck can't we
assert our rights? Why do we say, "Well, we shouldn't because we think the
court's not going to side with us"? A right is a right. Prescriptive, I mean,
easements are very discretionary on the part of the court.
So, I would say if we have the two options and Joe already said that going with
eminent domain does not preclude us—well, let me back up. Approving this
resolution does not preclude us from seeking other avenues as well, okay. But I
just wanted to bring that up. I didn't think it was going to end up in this
protracted discussion, but I think it's been productive, actually. I just wanted to
state my views for the record. But I really thank Maile. And I know Karen kind
of agrees with my views as well. But, hey, Val, I'm in full support of this
measure. Don't get me wrong, okay. I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to
obstruct this thing. I'm actually trying to make this thing move faster if possible.
Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you.
MS. POINDEXTER: I just have a question because for me, too, on prescriptive
rights.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay.
MS. POINDEXTER: So, I think I want to ask Joe, if I can ask Joe a question too,
just to get clarification. Because, I've read where some people went after
prescriptive rights and then you used the existing either roadway or whatever
they're getting for the prescriptive rights. But then, if any changes to that trail or
roadway during the prescriptive rights, don't they have to go back to the
landowner for permission?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: I think that was a question for Mr. Kamelamela.
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah.
MR. KAMELAMELA: Yeah, I'm thinking about that one. So, it actually comes
down to what kind of proof you have. Because, you have to prove not only the
fact that the amount of years that was used and that—and so, we're going back
over 20 years at least. We had people prior to the surfers, we had people
fishing, spearing, and maybe even surfing because the Hawaiians surfed too,
yeah. And so, those types of rights have always been supported in the laws that
we have. So, we need kama`aina testimony to kind of shore that up. And I think
we have a lot of that, that was presented to the Council back in 2000 in an effort
to show that this particular property had been used for decades or maybe even
generations.
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But again, the proof lies on exactly what the trail was. Because, I understand that
there had been changes to the trail. So, what I had walked on, seemed like it
existed for over ten years. And so, what I heard Mr. Yuen talk about, some of the
issues I mean, I understand what he's saying. But as I indicated earlier, too, that
is the issue that we intend to also look at. Because if we do file a lawsuit, nothing
prevents us from filing two separate counts.
MS. POINDEXTER: Thank you, Joseph. My question was, I was just trying to
figure out the difference because when prescriptive rights and you make some
changes, I thought you have to go back to the landowner if any changes would be
made after the prescriptive rights were given. So, that was my question. But
that's okay because, right now, everybody's in support of this. It's just
understanding the reason for it being this way versus prescriptive rights. So, I
don't know if—I'll give one more last comment for Chris Yuen, if you want to
chime in on that and what I asked.
MR. KAMELAMELA: Val, before we get there, the issue that they were talking
about the landowner, we understand landowners change. So, in the past, we had
the ali`i and then later on were the tunas during the sugarcane days. And those
landowners in the past have allowed the native people to use the land as it is. So,
it's a type of relationship that the landowner wants with the community that
counts in my eyes. And then for some reason, the relationship presently, I don't
think some of the things that's being done is unreasonable. But there's a
(inaudible) to really have a good relationship right now with the people there.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. Poindexter, did you want to finish up with
Mr. Yuen?
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, I was just asking Chris, before he just gets off, to just
kind of give—out of all of these discussion and questions, do you have a last
comment to make?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mr. Yuen.
MR. YUEN: Yes. Well, I appreciate everything the Council Members are
saying, and I understand completely what Council Chair Chung was saying about
if you have a right, you can assert that right. I'm not saying that a prescriptive
easement case couldn't be won, but there is a difficulty in elements of proof when
you try to match it up against the last Hawaii Supreme Court case that came out
in the 1970s about prescriptive easements. The case, depending on the testimony
that comes out, it could possibly be won. There will be disputes in the testimony,
but I do think that pursuing this eminent domain resolution is the most
expeditious and practical way of assuring long-term public access along a usable
trail onto Papa`ikou beach.
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MS. POINDEXTER: Thank you. Okay, I think we've taken up a lot of time on
this, and I see Maile chomping at the bit over here. So, I will yield at this time.
Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Ms. Poindexter. And I hope everyone is okay
that I've been lenient in the discussion, but I feel this is an important issue and I
think we're learning a lot. So, if nobody objects, I'll continue entertaining
anybody's comments. I see Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder and Ms. David would like
to speak again but let me check. Is there anyone in Hilo that hasn't had a chance
to speak?
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, Chair. Tim Richards.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Sure. Go ahead, Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. Listening to the conversation, I, too, will
be following this very closely. And, Val, I do support this going forward if this is
our best solution. So, question, because we still have Joe here at the table, Joe,
from a liability standpoint, condemnation puts liability on the County if we own
it. If we just have the prescriptive easement, is that a State liability issue?
MR. KAMELAMELA: No, it's a(inaudible). So, currently, there's a
recreational statute that protects the landowner. So, since the landowner allows
people to use the property, there is some immunity for the landowner. The
County doesn't have the same kind of liability. But in a situation like that, as long
as we maintain the property and the trail in a reasonably safe manner, the risk of
liability and the amount issued is kind of on the small side damage-wise.
Because, like, after you walk the trail and the trail is relatively easy to walk, and
any type of hazards is observable. So, as long as you stay on the trail, it should be
fine.
And then, so, the County people may have to just watch this one corner of the trail
to make sure that we look at whether erosion is impacting it. But there is a lot of
people that use it, a lot of people in the community that can tell us where things
have to be fixed.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. And then, to follow up with that, talking about access.
ADA compliancy would not be an issue with ?
MR. KAMELAMELA: No, not in this situation because this iswe don't intend
to improve it. And then even if there is an issue, there are other locations that
people with disabilities can go to, to enjoy the same kinds of benefits that's there
too.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. I appreciate that, Joe. Thank you. That's as much for
the public. I am a little concerned from a precedence standpoint. If there's an
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inherent right and we have to go through condemnation to exert that right, I worry
about precedence going forward. But again, Val, I do support this because I hear
what you're saying. It's just interesting conversation. Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay. Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Is Mike Yee in the room in Hilo?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: I think he might be. Mr. Yee, are you still in the
chambers? Yes, he is.
MR. BROWN: He is. He's coming up now.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you.
(Note: At this time, Planning Director Michael Yee came forward to
address the members of the Council, via videoconferencing from Hilo.)
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Good morning, Mike.
MR. YEE: Good morning.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Just a question for you. Maybe about six
months ago, Council Member Tamara Paltin from Maui County put up a very
long description of all the different rights afforded by HRS (Hawai`i Revised
Statutes) for a right to access public access ways. And most of those seemed to
fall back to the Planning Department. Specifically for private homeowners
obstructing a right of way to a shoreline, there's fines, there's penalties provided
by HRS but they always come back to "contact your County Planning
Department." How has the Planning Department been involved?
MR. YEE: Lucky for you I have April Surprenant who certainly knows—Deputy
Director knows a lot more about public access issues. But even then, I will admit
we're a little caught off guard. We weren't here today to discuss this, but we will
try to do our best to answer your questions.
(Note: At this time, Planning Deputy Director April Surprenant came
forward to address the members of the Council, via videoconferencing
from Hilo.)
MS. SURPRENANT: Aloha. April Surprenant, Deputy Planning Director. So,
the Planning Department has been involved from an SMA (Special Management
Area) standpoint, as well as public access. But in termsI'm not familiar with all
of the things the Council Member is the different records that he's referring to
so I can't speak directly to those, but we have been watching this closely. We
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would like to see it in County control in some way so that the public would
forever have access without interruption. And we will do our best to help
implement what the County Council adopts and approves.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, I'm just looking at different sections
of HRS 46-65, 115-5, 115-7, 115-9. All of them regarding maintaining public
access to and along shorelines and, generally, counties having the primary
authority and duty to develop those access ways. And then also, they go on to
state that the State, under its Na Ala Hele program, is responsible for management
and maintenance of public rights of way that are part of the trail system, but we're
supposed to keep an inventory of all public rights of way at the Planning office.
I'm following up to see, do we have a list?
MS. SURPRENANT: So, we do have a list and it is being updated as we speak.
We're working with some UH (University of Hawaii) students that are helping to
update our geodatabase. We also do work very closely with Na Ala Hele in terms
of implementing their plans and coordinating our plans as well. Through our
Subdivision Code, we include requirements. And sometimes our rezoning
ordinances, we require the public accesses be put in place and easements and
grant of easements that you all actually adopt. So, we do have that program and
we're furthering that program as we speak and updating it.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Do we have ordinances in our County Code
that require a property owner to provide access?
MS. SURPRENANT: The Subdivision Code, yes.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: This wasn't a subdivision, though. This is
just a regular parcel.
MS. SURPRENANT: We can also require it through SMAS, and we do that
particularly with SMA majors.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Has that been done on this property?
MS. SURPRENANT: I don't think that'sno, that has not been done on this
property because they've had no action since this has been going on. And since
this owner has owned it, they have not done any land use actions that would then
require it. So, they haven't come in for a subdivision, for example, and they
haven't come in for an SMA that would then give us the ability to require that
access.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Well, then-but the State precedent, there
has to be an availability of access there. Correct?
MS. SURPRENANT: With State precedence?
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I mean,just by State law, we're supposed to
have access.
MS. SURPRENANT: Well, one of the considerations yes, we have to have
public access but one of the considerations with this particular property and the
reason why eminent domain was brought up, in my recollection, eight years ago,
is because this access is private. It's privately owned. And so, this landowner
doesn't—and the reason why they close their access from time to time is to
maintain their private status. And I don't know all the legal portions of that and
perhaps Corporation Counsel could address that, but that's why they close it from
time to time is to maintain their private rights.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: When did they buy the property? What is
the history?
MS. SURPRENANT: I do not know.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Does anyone know when they bought the
property?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mr. Yuen might. Chris
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Chris, are you aware of when they bought
the property?
MR. YUEN: Yes. In the early to mid-1990s.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mid-1990s. I mean, I would assume that
there was access before they bought the property.
MR. YUEN: People have gone across the property on various routes to get to the
beach for many decades.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Interesting. Okay, so, interesting
summary of events that really just highlights that this property owner really does
not want to work with the community. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it.
Thank you for being there, Planning Department. I appreciate your input. I'll be
following up on the Na Ala Hele list that you guys have so I can take a look at
that. Mahalo.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Thank you, Chair. And I promise this will be the last time I speak.
I'm fully in support of this. Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder raised his comments about
if these are laws and the State is obligated and the County is obligated, why aren't
we doing it? So, that raised a real sentimental issue in me because that is the
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reason why I think Ms. Eoff and I got involved way back in the day, is because
we understood that there are all these rights and protections that appear in our
constitution and in our laws, but what was happening on the ground was totally
opposite.
So, what you're saying is totally true. And why we became community activists
or community advocates was for that reason, specifically. We were told that
unless and until someone brings it forward in a court of law where a decision can
be made, implementation is really at the whim of the government whether they
implement it. If no one raises the issue, nothing will happen. "Business as usual"
is what the old style was.
So, 20, 30 years ago, that was such a commonplace happening, and that's what
drove us in the PASH. Although it didn't—and my passion is the inherent rights
of the native to access and gather because those are constitutionally protected.
And for us—and Karen was very involved with former Council Member Angel
Pilago in doing the PASH litigation. And that wasn't based on prescriptive or
inherent rights, but that was based on standing, whether a native had standing to
even oppose what was being proposed. So, in that standing, it was based on the
inherent rights of native Hawaiians to access and gather.
So, this is what is really attractive to me in this proceeding is because I've heard
the testimony of the native community saying that this area is so special and has
been used for access and gathering for years and years. And so, that is basically
my reason that I really support this and thank Ms. Poindexter for bringing this
forward. And I love that we have options. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Are there any further comments, Council
Members? Well, seeing none, before we do vote, I would just like to say that my
experience through all of that litigation and etcetera, learning curve, was that
we're always in this really delicate kind of situation here in Hawaii. It's like a
balancing act—trying to balance the western concepts of property in law with the
Hawaiian rights to access and gather for subsistence and the protection of our
public trust resources. It's always because land is so valuable here in Hawaii that
it becomes an issue. But I think some of the precedence that we have set should
help us going forward. And maybe there needs to be more lawsuits. Or maybe
we just need to interpret our laws better as we evolve as a community and as a
government, to be able to establish a way to balance all of these rights here in
Hawaii at this time. Anyways, we'll go ahead and take a vote. All in favor—I
think we don't need to do a roll call vote. All in favor of supporting
Resolution 732-20, please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 732-20: The motion to adopt Res. 732-20 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 141 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff–9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Thank you very much, everybody. And
before we close, I just want to thank Mr. Yuen. He's been there for a long haul.
As long as I've been in Hawaii I think over 40 years—I've known him to be a
fighter for these kinds of causes. So, mahalo, Chris.
MR. YUEN: Thank you, all.
MR. HENRICKS: Madam Chair, before you proceed, I just wanted to recognize
that this was the first of two required readings.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Oh, thank you for that. Okay, so, we'll have this back on
the agenda in two weeks.
MR. HENRICKS: Yes and we'll publish a full notice of the contents of the
resolution and the vote count in between the readings, pursuant to State law.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay. And so, that's because it's an eminent domain
reso (resolution)?
MR. HENRICKS: That is correct.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you, Mr. Clerk. Okay, I'd like to take
Resolution 733. I know people from Housing are here and in Hilo. That would
be the next item on the agenda.
MS. LEE LOY: Yes, Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Oh, I'm sorry. Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: And then Planning Department is also here for Bills 200 and
201.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes, I was going to take that next, after the Housing
resolution.
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MS. LEE LOY: Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Go ahead.
Res. 733-20: AUTHORIZES THE EXEMPTION OF CERTAIN CODE REQUIREMENTS,
PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 2011-1-38 AND 46-15.1 OF THE HAWAII
REVISED STATUTES, FOR WEST KAWILI STREET SENIOR/VETERAN
HOUSING IN SOUTH HILO, HAWAII, COVERED BY TAX MAP
KEY 2-4-057:030
HKI Kawili LLC seeks certain exemptions from certain code and zoning
requirements to facilitate the development of 91 affordable housing units, a
managers resident unit, and a community center, located at the corner of
West Kawili Street and Kapi`olani Street.
Reference: Comm. 1079
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz (B/R)
Approve: PC-55
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to adopt Res. 733-20 and Planning
Committee Report No. 55. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead, Ms. Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. I have Housing Administrator
Duane Hosaka here if folks have any questions about this. But this is our second
201H project that has come under our review. Just to remind everyone, this is the
affordable housing unit for veterans and their spouses. So, he's here to answer
any questions, but I believe that we had a robust discussion during Planning
Committee and everyone was in support of this project. Thank you, Chair. I
yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you for the background. Council Members, do
you have any questions of Housing at this time? I know we also have the
developer on standby via WebEx if there are any questions. Hearing none, all in
favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 733-20: The motion to adopt Res. 733-20 and Planning Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 55 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Villegas, and Acting Chair Eoff—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Richards — 1.
Excused: None.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion is carried. Okay, thank you very much.
Mr. Clerk, can you please read in Bill 200?
Change Order As directed by the Acting Chair and with no objection from the Council
of Business: Members, the following items were taken out of order:
Bill 200: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 05-115 WHICH RECLASSIFIED LANDS FROM
AGRICULTURAL—FIVE ACRES (A-5a) TO NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL (CN-20) AT PUAPUA`AIKI IST AND PUAPUA`ANUI 1sT
NORTH KONA, HAWAII, COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY 7-5-017:001
(Applicant: Pua`a Development, LLC) (Area: 14.973 Acres)
The Leeward Planning Commission forwards its unfavorable recommendation for
this amendment, which would allow revisions or time extensions to 11 conditions in
the existing change of zone ordinance. The property is located west(makai) of
Queen Ka`ahumanu Highway and the Pualani Estates Subdivision, and about 1,400
feet north of the Queen Ka`ahumanu Highway.
Reference: Comm. 1077
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz (B/R)
Approve: PC-56
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mr. Clerk, can we read both bills at the same time, or is it
better to do just one and then the other?
MR. HENRICKS: I don't think that's necessary.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Separate?
MR. HENRICKS: Yeah. Probably better just to keep them separated for now, as
they were presented as separate change of zone ordinances for whatever reason.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Ms. Villegas. Oh, Ms. Kierkiewicz.
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to pass Bill 200 on first reading
and adopt Planning Committee Report No. 56. Seconded
by Ms. Lee Loy.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: We do have Mr. Sidney Fuke here and the applicant, as
well as Mr. Ken Van Bergen. And I know
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes? Go ahead.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I also want to note Planning's presence here in Hilo, but I
did want to provide an update to the group because I was able to co-host a
meeting with Council Member Villegas earlier this week with both the Planning
Department and the applicants.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay. Then, you have the floor.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. We hosted a discussion earlier this week
about close to two hours. There were three areas of concern that needed to be
resolved. We're not quite there yet in resolving all of those issues. So, I'm going
to request that we postpone both Bills 200 and 201, giving Council
Member Villegas and I an opportunity to further work with the Planning
Department and the applicants to finalize the amendments, with the idea being
that these amendments be finalized and read into the record via communication.
And that being a tool that Council Member Villegas, in partnership with the
applicant, can be used to share with community. That way, there's buy-in and
understanding before we get to the next Council meeting. So, that's just my
request and I can wait to make the formal motion to postpone at the end of the
discussion. Thank you, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, sure. We can go ahead with discussion before you
make that motion then. Ms. Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Yes, I want to thank both the property owner and Mr. Fuke, the
representative, and Mr. Van Bergen and the Planning Department and all of the
staff for taking the time on Monday to have the conversation, and also for the
preemptive work that was done by the department already with Mr. Fuke to
identify and put back in a lot of the terms and amendments that had been prior
removed. This is one of my first opportunities to work more in-depth with a
landowner and on planning issues and time-extension issues. As such, something
that I really appreciate about the process in this capacity and in this circumstance
is it's a little bit different in many ways.
And I have been inundated by requests from constituents to postpone this from
moving through first reading, which was going to happenI was going to ask for
today—so that they could get familiar with some of the changes that had been
made and catch up on the status of where things were. This was not forwarded
with positive recommendations, both from the Planning Commission or the
Planning Director, which made it unique. But I really feel like this is also an
interesting example of the County Council, in our ability to sit with the different
members, which, for whatever reason, couldn't get to where we are now. I'm
really grateful that we were able to do that.
When we met on Monday, there were only three issues that still had to be
resolved, and in a two-hour conversation. Just person to person, based on
relationships and potential precedence and compromise and understanding and,
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kind of, diligence and commitment to coming to a resolution. I really feel like
well, I know that we were able to come to conclusions on those three issues. And
I'm very hopeful that the constituents of this district will be pleased with how
that's come about and that we are getting to where ideally the agreements would
have already been made, either through the Planning Commission or through the
Planning Director.
But I just want to thank all of you for your patience and graciousness with me in
this process. And I feel like the goal is that we serve the people and we treat one
another with respect and dignity and that we don't compromise precedent when it
comes to land use issues and zoning changes and whatnot. And in this
challenging time, I'm grateful that we could all take that stance. And even though
it was under irregular circumstances, I thank you for making the adjustments and
conceding to their request and the requirements of Planning.
And I look forward to the amendments being brought forth by way of a
communication and the updated bills being available for our constituents to
review and take a look at, and recognize that we are kind of—we're getting to
where we needed to go, even if we got there a little bit differently. That seems to
be the ironic theme of 2020. So, thank you once again. And thank you, Ashley,
for setting up that meeting and sitting with us. And thank you, Planning
Department, for your guidance and your wisdom and, Mr. Yee, for your
contributions and sticking to your guns when you needed to, but also allowing for
some flexibility when it was necessary.
I'm very hopeful that, as the amendments come forward, not only will the
developer and the potential buyer, but also our constituents will be able to rest
more easily as we move forward with this process. So, thank you again. I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you so much, Ms. Villegas. Any other comments,
Council Members, before we get that motion to postpone? Seeing none, then,
Ms. Kierkiewicz, did you want to do that?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Yes. Thank you, Chair.
Vote on Motion to Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to postpone Bill 200 to
Postpone: November 6, 2020. Seconded by Ms. Villegas and carried
(Approved) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff–9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries and thank you to everybody for your time.
Bill 201: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 05-113 WHICH RECLASSIFIED LANDS FROM
AGRICULTURAL—FIVE ACRES (A-5a) TO MULTIPLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL (RM-2.5) AT PUAPUA`AIKI IST AND PUAPUA`ANUI 1sT
NORTH KONA, HAWAII, COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY 7-5-017:019
(Applicant: Suffolk Investment LLC) (Area: 14.87 Acres)
The Leeward Planning Commission forwards its unfavorable recommendation for
this amendment, which would allow revisions or time extensions to 11 conditions to
the existing change of zone ordinance. The property is located west(makai) of
Queen Ka`ahumanu Highway and east(mauka) of Kuakini Highway and the
Kahakai Estates Subdivision, approximately 2,200 feet north of the
Queen Ka`ahumanu Highway.
Reference: Comm. 1078
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz (B/R)
Approve: PC-57
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to pass Bill 201 on first reading
and adopt Planning Committee Report No. 57. Seconded
by Ms. Villegas.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair, this is a companion measure to Bill 200. So, again,
going to be working with Council Member Villegas, Planning, and the applicant
to finalize amendments, that with community. So, looking to postpone until
November 6.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, why don't you just make that motion then.
Vote on Motion to Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to postpone Bill 201 to
Postpone: November 6, 2020. Seconded by Ms. Villegas and carried
(Approved) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, now we can take up—there are several things that
Planning is in the chambers for. So, I'd like to skip around a little bit and take
care of the Planning issues. So, let's see. Resolution 739.
Res. 739-20: AUTHORIZES THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING
AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
Allows for the receipt of$1,101,466 of Federally-derived funds to be used by the
Office of Housing and Community Development to pay for an increase in
Section 8 rent due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Reference: Comm. 1087
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-147
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 739-20 and Finance
Committee Report No. 147. Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead, Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Yes, thank you. I think we discussed this entirely in Committee.
We had a unanimous vote on this, and I ask for your continued support. Thank
you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Any other discussion? Hearing none,
all in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 739-20: The motion to adopt Res. 739-20 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 147 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff–9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. I'm skipping around between Planning
and Housing right now, but let me just take Resolution 754.
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Res. 754-20: AUTHORIZES THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF HAWAII, EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT AGENCY, PURSUANT TO HAWAII REVISED STATUTES
SECTION 46-7, FOR A GRANT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
Allows for the receipt of$195,726.75 of Federally-derived funds for a long-term
disaster recovery plan and program focused on hazard mitigation.
Reference: Comm. 1117
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 754-20. Seconded by
Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Any discussion? Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Yes, thank you. I believe Deputy Planning Director
April Surprenant is in our Hilo chambers. And I'd like her to come up and kind
of give us a briefing on this because this was waived out of Finance so that we
could expedite the receipt of funds. So, is Ms. Surprenant stilloh, there you are.
(Note: At this time, Planning Deputy Director April Surprenant came
forward to address the members of the Council, via videoconferencing
from Hilo.)
MS. DAVID: Thank you. Good morning.
MS. SURPRENANT: Good morning.
MS. DAVID: Could you just give us a brief description of these funds? Thank
you.
MS. SURPRENANT: Absolutely. April Surprenant, Deputy Planning Director.
So, this is a grant that we received ultimately through FEMA (Federal Emergency
Management Agency), HI-EMA (Hawai`i Emergency Management Agency). It's
a hazard mitigation grant, and it's specifically to support the analysis and science
studies that we are about to embark on, related to our shoreline setback rules. So,
all of the other counties in the State have already done this level of scientific
analysis to revise and update their shoreline setback rules, but the County of
Hawaii has not yet done that.
We currently have a small grant, which you have already approved, through
NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), through the Coastal
Zone Management program. And so, those funds, along with this, will be used to
work on those scientific studies.
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MS. DAVID: Thank you. Do you have an estimate on how long it will take the
County to get our rules regarding this or some form?
MS. SURPRENANT: To get the rules, that will take a little time because we
have to get these studies done first. We're also working in collaboration with the
University of Hawaii - Hilo. And so, we still have to go through the procurement
process for professional services. There's a lot of fieldwork that's involved. So,
we're working on that scope and timeline now, but it could still be a couple of
years before we have a revised shoreline setback rule.
MS. DAVID: Perfect. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Surprenant, for that
discussion and timeline. Chair, I yield. Mahalo.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Any other questions or comments?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. April,just curious. This particular study, is it
being informed by the Hawaii Sea Level Rise Vulnerability and Adaptation
Report that was put up by SOEST (School of Ocean and Earth Science and
Technology)? I mean, it's like a 300-page document, and I feel it lays a really
good foundation for this study.
MS. SURPRENANT: Absolutely, yes.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, great.
MS. SURPRENANT: This has more to do with it, so it will take that into
account. But this is more to do the on-the-ground work to determine our erosion
rates. What makes it more challenging for our island is the amount of coastline
that we have and also the variety of different coastal typologies that we have to be
able to address.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Got it. How does this study in any way impact movement
to finalize the updated version of the General Plan?
MS. SURPRENANT: It's aside from that. So, the General Plan will address
general policies related to coastal development and things of that nature. But this
is something that has been the setback rule has been something that's been in
the works for a long time. But because of our lack of local funding to be able to
address these kinds of studies, we've been looking for various funding
alternatives to move us forward.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Thanks for being proactive in looking for funding
tools so that we can make sure that our laws and policies are in place, so that we
can have responsible development.
MS. SURPRENANT: Absolutely.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Thank you, Chair. I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Any other comments? Questions?
MS. LEE LOY: Yes, Chair.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead, Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. April,pleasure to see you. In addition to this work,
we know that we have our own County rules as it relates to shoreline setbacks
within the SMA. How is this going to be dovetailed into OCCL (Office of
Conservation and Coastal Lands), which is our State office of coastal lands? How
is this work going to be dovetailed into our State policies around coastal land?
MS. SURPRENANT: We would incorporate any considerations of the State
policies into this work, as well as the ocean resources management program that
is also managed through the State Office of Planning. So, all of that would be in
consideration of this. Yeah.
MS. LEE LOY: And then, earlier, you mentioned other municipals have done the
work already. Are there lessons learned from that work or even rules that they
may have adopted that may be already adjusting that we could actually, as
Ms. Kierkiewicz, always just fall forward a little bit and learn the lesson?
MS. SURPRENANT: Absolutely. We'll be that's why we participate in our
Coastal Zone Management program on a monthly basis with the State and all of
the other counties. And so, we will be incorporating their lessons learned, as well
as borrowing,perhaps, some language from their rules and laws that they've
passed.
MS. LEE LOY: Great. And then my final question: We've always had a CZM
(Coastal Zone Management) individual in the office of Planning here. Do we still
have that? Because, I know we were getting funded from Coastal Zone
Management on some of the work that was being done, per Planning Department.
Do we still have that?
MS. SURPRENANT: We do still have funding that we received through the
Coastal Zone Management program, and that funding funds six positions in the
Planning Department.
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MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, April. Awesome job. Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Ms. Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you for being here, April. It's always a joy to see you.
And I really appreciate the hard work that you're doing in moving this forward in
this process. I just wanted to express my hope that, as we enter into a new term
and will be having a new mayor, with the recent passage of the resolution by the
County Council to have our County participate in the climate litigation lawsuit
that both Oahu and Maui are participating in.
I hope that as this research continues and we recognize in an even more numerical
and scientific capacity the extent of damage and changes to our shoreline that are
eminent due to climate change and sea level rise, that the results of this research
and the findings in this report will inspire our future mayor to participate and join
the other counties in the climate litigation, which if, one, would provide our
County with the financial resources to help mitigate the cost of moving our
infrastructure from the shorelines.
So, I just thank you for moving us into these next steps to calibrate and come up
with the exact numbers, not only for future planning and permitting and how we
build. But I think it's also going to be very relevant in how we inventory the
buildings and structures and infrastructure we currently have so close to our
shorelines. So, thank you for that, April. I really appreciate you. I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Ms. Villegas. Any other comments?
Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Hi, April. It's Matt. I'm looking over the
request for Council action from the department of Finance. And then on the very
bottom, it says, "Objective 2" is also to use different tools to manage impacts and
adapt to increased risk from more intense rainfall. I think this is one of the
biggest issues that Puna has faced and definitely shore back, or shoreline setbacks
don't really affect most of my district but rainfall does. And so, can you kind of
explain to me how will Planning be looking at rainfall in this study, and who will
you be partnering with?
MS. SURPRENANT: So, we will be partnering with—well, we haven't hired a
consultant yet, so we still have yet to go through the procurement process for that.
We are also partnering with USGS (United States Geological Survey), as well as
University of Hawaii in Hilo. Rainfall addresses this from a coastal flooding
standpoint. So, we have to measure not only—like right now, for example, in the
NOAA sea level rise predictions for our County, all it takes into consideration is a
bathtub effect. So, it's an up and down sort of effect that it looks like. It does not
consider major wave action or flooding that happens during a large event. And
so, when there's a large event, it's not only the wave action that's coming from
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the ocean, but it's also the flooding. And rise in sea level in the coastal area is
also affected by the mauka rains that come down at the same time. So, that's why
the rainfall is mentioned in this particular study.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, so, you're not tracking water from its
source on the different mountains then. You're just tracking it where it hits the
ocean.
MS. SURPRENANT: Correct. We're tracking on the amount of surface rainfall
that makes its way to the coastal the near shore and land coastal environment.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. So, I just initiated a floodplain
management study with the U.S. (United States) Army Corps of Engineers for
Puna because of the amount of water that we see go through upper Puna and then
make its way to lower Puna. I find it to be one of the bigger causes of our
roadway issues. I don't know if that ties in to what you're doing. Because if
you're going to look at what's on the bottom, you've got to look at what comes
from the top. So, that's why I was asking.
MS. SURPRENANT: Absolutely. I mean, yeah, we definitely could contact
Army Corps. I didn't realize that you were initiating that study but I think it's
excellent. It's needed. So, I'm glad to hear that that's happening, and we can
certainly take that into consideration with that area of the shoreline, where those
waters drain down the ahupua`as into the coastal areas.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yeah, I think it's important and it may not
be completely in the scope of this project. But just seeing in the objective, too, if
we don't know what's coming from the mauna and coming to the ocean, then we
don't really know what to track. And I think Jon Olson once said, the amount of
water coming out of the Puna basin, basically, is equal to that, that comes out of
the Amazon River. And that is an impressive amount of rainfall that's being
received and then emptying into the ocean at different sources. So, worth
knowing and,just in terms of a visual, that's a pretty big that's a large amount
of water. So, if you'd like contacts and some connections for that, please let me
know so I can link you up with the right people.
MS. SURPRENANT: Will do. Thank you.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, April.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Any other comments or questions?
Okay, thank you, Ms. Surprenant. And all in favor, please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 754-20: The motion to adopt Res. 754-20 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Resolution 754 is approved. Can we just
go down to Resolution 756?
Res. 756-20: AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE
AGREEMENT WITH PAPA`ALOA ELDERLY HOUSING LIMITED
PARTNERSHIP FOR THE REHABILITATION OF THE PAPA`ALOA
ELDERLY HOUSING PROJECT LOCATED IN THE DISTRICT OF
HAMAKUA, HAWAII, TAX MAP KEY: 3-5-003:049
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a multi-year lease agreement to rehabilitate and
maintain the existing rental housing apartment for senior citizens at a set lease rate
of$10 per year.
Reference: Comm. 1121
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 756-20. Seconded by
Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Thank you. Chair, this was waived from Finance because actually
I think there's some urgency in signing this lease. I think it needs to be executed
by October 31st, the end of this month. So, I believe Housing Administrator
Hosaka is in the room in Hilo, and if he could kind of explain the terms, etcetera,
of this lease and the expediting request. Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Housing Administrator Duane Hosaka came forward
to address the members of the Council, via videoconferencing from Hilo.)
MR. HOSAKA: Duane Hosaka, Housing Administrator. You are correct; we're
expediting this process. But this resolution, mainly we're trying to recognize the
new lessee's name. The name changed. The original lessee was Papa`aloa
Elderly Housing. And currently, the new lessee is Papa`aloa Elderly Housing
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Limited Partnership. So, we just wanted to make sure that's on the record. But
we ask for your favorable consideration on this project, which we'll have 20 new
senior housing units in Papa`aloa.
MS. DAVID: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hosaka. On that note, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you, Ms. David. I'm going to go to
Ms. Poindexter and then if someone in Hilo wanted to be recognized, let me
know.
MS. POINDEXTER: Okay, yeah. And I just want to give a shout-out to
Susan Nakayama, who was very instrumental in making this happen. Because,
she brought it to my attention that the vouchers, when the lava eruption happened,
our vouchers disappeared for this project. And I want to thank Wil Okabe as well
and the previous Housing Administrator because we all met together, and then we
were able to get the vouchers back to proceed with this project. So, kudos to
Susan Nakayama for making sure that we could take care of our senior housing.
Aloha. Thanks.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Hilo, did you have a comment?
Anybody? Okay, thank you. Then, all in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 756-20: The motion to adopt Res. 756-20 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Resolution 756-20 is adopted. There was another
Planning bill, I think. Was there? Oh, a companion. Bill 215. Sorry for jumping
around so much.
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Bill 215: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2021
Appropriates revenues in the Federal Grants —HMGP (Hazard Mitigation Grant
Program)—Shoreline & Riparian Setbacks for Hawaii County Analysis account
($195,726.75); and appropriates the same to the HMGP —Shoreline & Riparian
Setbacks for Hawaii County Analysis account. Funds would be used for a long-
term disaster recovery plan and program focused on hazard mitigation.
Reference: Comm. 1117
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 215 on first reading.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Any comments? Questions?
MS. DAVID: Just that this is a companion to the resolution we just passed, 754.
Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Okay, all in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 215: The motion to pass Bill 215 on first reading was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: I think there was one more housing. Well, let's just take
Bill 193. Bill 193, Draft 2,please. It's in "Order of the Day."
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Bill 193: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
(Draft 2) BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2021
Appropriates revenues in the Federal –CDBG (Community Development Block
Grant) COVID-19 account($978,184); and appropriates the same to the following
CDBG-CV2 accounts: Food Basket Emergency Food Distribution Equipment
Acquisition ($223,500); Boys & Girls Club of Big Island–Mobile Youth Outreach
Services ($376,000); Na Kahua Hale O Ulu Wini–Laundry & Utility Improvements
($175,000); Project Vision Hawaii –Mobile Health & Hygiene Service ($110,000);
and CDBG-CV Administration ($93,684). Funds would be used to prevent, prepare
for, and respond to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Reference: Comm. 1061.2
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
First Reading: October 7, 2020
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 193, Draft 2, on second and
final reading. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Any comments?
MS. DAVID: Just ask for your continued support. Mahalo.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you very much. All in favor,please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 193: The motion to pass Bill 193, Draft 2, on second and final
Draft 2 reading was carried by the following voice vote:
(Adopted)
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff–9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Bill 193 is approved, Draft 2. Okay, I'd
like to just go to—we have Bills 209 through 214. I'd like to take those right
now, please. We have somebody from Hawaii Police Department in Hilo
waiting on those.
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Bill 209: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
JUNE 30, 2021
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants –HCPD Data Grant account($15,280);
and appropriates the same to the HCPD Data Grant account, for a total
appropriation of$72,280. Funds would be used for services, training, and
software to provide data between the State Department of Transportation and the
Hawaii Police Department.
Reference: Comm. 1110
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 209 on first reading.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
MS. DAVID: Thank you, Chair. This was also requested to be waived out of
Committee and I believe—do we have Traffic Safety Coordinator Torey Keltner
in our ?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes, we do.
MS. DAVID: Yes, we do. Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Program Manager Torey Keltner, Police Department,
came forward to address the members of the Council, via
videoconferencing from Hilo.)
MS. DAVID: Mr. Keltner, can you please give us an explanation of this training
software? A brief explanation. Thank you.
MR. KELTNER: Thank you, Madam Chair. My name is Torey Keltner. I'm the
Program Manager for Traffic Services at the Hawaii Police Department. The
traffic records grant funds, there's actually a couple of different, I guess,
programs that we'll be implementing. A new one is this HIGLS (Hawai`i
Incident Geo-Location System)program, which is through the Department of
Transportation. It's a system that will allow for officers to more easily and more
accurately identify the specific locations of vehicle crashes. And that will
incorporate they're currently working on the integration of how that will work
with our Spillman records management system and that we also areKauai
Police Department is also using the same system that we are. So, we are working
together to get that done through that same company.
Another one that we have is what's called the Easy Street Draw. It's a diagram
you program that makes it so that the diagrams that the officers produce through
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the computer system are easily used and integrated into the records so that, when
they move forward into the court system when there's litigation on a crash, we
have accurate professional diagrams that will be sent forward.
Additionally in there, we have training that we have an annual conference that
this—we typically have sent two individuals from the department to the traffic
records forum, and I have asked for one additional IT (Information Technology)
person to attend because there are connections that they can make there that will
help us be able to collect and use better data in identifying these major traffic
corridors on the island. And so, that will be a benefit for addressing those
concerns and issues we have.
MS. DAVID: Thank you very much for that. On that note, I yield and ask for
your support. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. All in favor,please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 209: The motion to pass Bill 209 on first reading was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Let's go to Bill 210.
Bill 210: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
JUNE 30, 2021
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants —Distracted Driving Project account
($8,128.80); and appropriates the same to the Distracted Driving Project account,
for a total appropriation of$73,128.80. Funds would be used to reduce the
number of drivers using electronic devices while operating a vehicle.
Reference: Comm. IIII
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 210 on first reading.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
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MS. DAVID: Yes. Mr. Keltner, can you just give us a brief explanation of this,
as it was also waived?
(Note: At this time, Program Manager Torey Keltner, Police Department,
came forward to address the members of the Council, via
videoconferencing from Hilo.)
MR. KELTNER: Madam Chair, I appreciate it. This grant, the distracted driving
grant, is very important to our mitigation of major crashes and fatalities on the
island. What the goal for this grant was, we did it so that we tried to increase the
number of distracted driver checkpoints or enforcement actions that we have by
24 percent for this upcoming year. We're trying to reduce, obviously, the number
of fatalities by a significant percentage. And one of the easy ways is enforcement
on this distracted driving.
We wanted to increase the number of distracted driver checkpoints from 115 last
year to 150 in 2021; through 2021, make 600 or more citizen contacts. That's not
necessarily citations, but that's contacts with individual drivers and giving them
information about the distracted driving and, obviously, enforcing that strictly
when violations are observed. Again, the stress that we have from DOT
(Department of Transportation) and actually from the Vision Zero program is that
we are going to try to use these funds in areas where there are high injury and
fatality crashes. That way, we can limit the numbers of those and have a good
impact on it. And something that we track in Traffic Services regularly to make
sure that we're meeting those goals.
This year, one of the things that I thought was an important piece, and
Chief Ferreira was supportive of it, is for our office to be able to be involved in
community events a little bit more, and many times they are in evening or
weekend hours. So, we've kind of put together some materials and training
presentation stuff that we can do in the community, and just a little funding to be
able to get out and do some of those events as well. And one of that is this
distracted driver kit. It's kind of a way to show people how the distracted
driving—how using an electronic device is a massive distraction and can cause
some really bad crashes. And so, it's a good, simple way to do that. So,
something that we want to do.
And another is that we want to put out a public service announcement that is
coming directly from our community with community members being involved,
to show the concern of the community. Because we at the department got calls
daily, hourly of people that are driving and not following the laws of that. And I
thought this would be a good avenue for us to engage with the community and get
it addressed that way.
MS. DAVID: Thank you very much for that. I just ask for your support and I
yield.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Any other comments?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Some quick comments. Thank you. I just want to thank
Torey for being very proactive here and for also taking into consideration the
principles of the Vision Zero plan that we had passed out of committee yesterday.
It's great that we as a County are aligning all of our actions and taking action
along with these meaningful plans. So, thank you, Torey.
And I love that HPD (Hawai`i Police Department) is going to be more involved in
community events. I think it's really smart to be out with community and really
humanizing police officers in a different context. I think that's a great idea, and I
love the concept of having a PSA (public service announcement) campaign. I
think the Our Kuleana mask-up campaign is very successful, and that was
something that was driven in partnership by community. So, in developing your
PSA campaign, I do hope that you lean on working with community to craft it.
So, thank you. And we are all here to support you. Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you, Ms. Kierkiewicz. Anybody else?
Hearing none, all in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 210: The motion to pass Bill 210 on first reading was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Bill 210 will move to second reading. Bill 211.
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Bill 211: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
JUNE 30, 2021
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants —Occupant Protection Program account
($33,454.40); and appropriates the same to the Occupant Protection Program
account, for a total appropriation of$123,454.40. Funds would be used for
seatbelt enforcement operations.
Reference: Comm. 1112
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 211 on first reading.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Any discussion?
MS. DAVID: Well, this is pretty self-explanatory, but if Mr. Keltner wants to
make a few comments, he can surely go ahead.
(Note: At this time, Program Manager Torey Keltner, Police Department,
came forward to address the members of the Council, via
videoconferencing from Hilo.)
MR. KELTNER: I would be happy to do that. This is a very important one,
personally, with the seatbelt enforcement and encouraging the community to
follow the seatbelt laws. It's something that's absolutely in the control of the
community. And it's something that we will, as law enforcement, not just in
Hawaii County but across the entire country, it's something that will always be
enforced strictly, and it's an easy way to keep people safe.
What we're going to do is we're going to increase the number of child restraint
involvements that we have and projects that we have specifically dedicated to
that. One of the things that we have been doing and we want to increase doing is
having the actual times when we will set up and have booths or locations that
people can come in and actually have officers check that their child safety seats
are installed correctly. Actually, the first time I put in one as a young father, I
thought I had it down. It's not always easy. And then, after going through this
training years ago, it definitely helped.
And it's always a good time to be out there in the community helping people.
And then if they have questions about it, we can answer some of those things.
The officers here do an outstanding job when they're involved and I'm very proud
of that.
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We're going to do nighttime seatbelt reinforcement projects as well—which is not
as common, I think, historically, but it's been identified that some of the major
crashes that happen are when it's lower light hours—and we want to encourage
that. So, there's some bump up in some of the staffing on those. Again, we're
going to have community events where we'll be out giving information and
interacting with the community in that. And this year, we want to have ten
additional officers trained specifically as child safety seat technicians so they'll
have the training to properly do that. And this is another one that we're going to
do, another PSA for child safety seats. And I can get community members to
come and participate and play roles in those that we put on the local channels.
MS. DAVID: Thank you very much for that. On that, I ask for your support and
I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Any other comments? Hearing none, all in
favor please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 211: The motion to pass Bill 211 on first reading was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff–9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Let's move to Bill 212.
Bill 212: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
JUNE 30, 2021
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants –HCPD Roadblock Program account
($159,841.20); and appropriates the same to the HCPD Roadblock Program
account, for a total appropriation of$359,841.20. Funds would be used to reduce
the number of drivers operating vehicles while impaired.
Reference: Comm. 1113
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 212 on first reading.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Any discussion?
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MS. DAVID: Yes. Mr. Keltner, this is a very important program. Comments,
please.
(Note: At this time, Program Manager Torey Keltner, Police Department,
came forward to address the members of the Council, via
videoconferencing from Hilo.)
MR. KELTNER: This one is a very involved and very important program. So,
thank you very much. I appreciate the opportunity to speak on this too.
Obviously, we have an issue in our local community with people driving under
the influence of alcohol and also other substances that make them impaired. We
have opportunities in this grant that will afford our traffic enforcement officers
and officers with the ability and advanced training to attend some courses that
we've identified actually last year. And because of COVID-19 (Coronavirus
Disease 2019), they weren't able to attend but they will be presenting the same
courses.
One is the Borkensteen alcohol course and the other is the Borkensteen drug
course. And they're very advanced scientific courses that will give officers the
opportunity to learn how to identify different substances that are impairing
people, and then they'll bring it back and instruct other officers on how they can
identify those things and then go through the process of combatting that.
Our objective is to screen at least 20,000 vehicles at impaired driving roadblocks.
Because of COVID-19 this was actually written prior to the outbreak. Because
of COVID-19, we've actually amended some of the ways that we go about that,
and we do what are called "saturation patrols" as well. And what that does is it
puts a large quantity of officers on grant funds in a particular area that we know
where people that are impaired drive and they're common for those major
crashes.
By saturating that area, we drop the number of people that are able to drive and
our DUI(driving under the influence) arrest numbers are fairly consistent with
what we've had last year. We did have a slowdown when there were so many
people not driving at all, but there's still people out there driving impaired. And
this grant will definitely help with keeping that down.
There's other pieces of equipment that we have that will help like in the actual
roadblocks and other major crash areas. We had gotten 200 reflective cones that
are in this, breath-test instruments. We've got power flares that we haven't had in
the grants before. These are things that will help to identify those areas and make
it more safe for the people approaching and for the officers involved in those.
It's my understanding that years ago there was a DRE school, a drug recognition
expert school, that was here on the island. And to my knowledge, it only occurred
once. This coming year, we're actually going to do a DRE instructor school. So,
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we'll have officers here on the island that will attend the school here. That way,
we can actually get more officers trained. Financially, it will help us to do that.
And we've already made arrangements with the Department of Transportation.
And Honolulu PD (Police Department) is going to send over some of their
observers, advanced instructors, and help manage the program when we go
through.
It's a three-week course, basically, and it's one of the hardest, most advanced
trainings in law enforcement that I am aware of. So, we're really lucky to have
the ability to do it and the support not only of DOT locally, but the National
Highway Traffic Safety Administration is very supportive of us bringing that
here. There's other pieces of equipment that we'll get that are going to help us
meet the goals and draw down the number of people that are injured or killed too.
Thank you.
MS. DAVID: Thank you. Sorry for interrupting.
MR. KELTNER: No problem.
MS. DAVID: I just want to thank you for this very important program that you
folks do for this community. And I ask for your support. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. All in favor,please say "aye."
MR. CHUNG: Karen?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: I'm sorry. I take that back. Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah. Mr. Keltner, thank you very much for coming here. We
had a pretty lengthy discussion on traffic safety yesterday, and fatalities. And so,
maybe if I could ask you a few questions in that regard so we can get more
information. Well, first of all from a technical standpoint, you also talked about
saturation patrols in those high-risk areas or areas where people have been known
to drive intoxicated. This is a roadblock grant. So, how do you resolve that? I
don't want to get caught up in technicalities, but I just want to make sure that
we're not running afoul of the grant.
MR. KELTNER: No, actually it's titled by the Department of Transportation as a
DRE roadblock grant. They are aware that we're doing the saturation patrols.
MR. CHUNG: Okay. That's all. Okay, thank you. And then, the other thing,
though, is we're looking at the data that was provided to us. Very interesting data
and very telling. But of course, a lot of these traffic fatalities, alcohol related, are
on the highways. And I don't drive on the highways too much at night, so I don't
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know if there are roadblocks on the highways. But what's the protocol for that? I
mean, is it something you guys don't do, or is it something that can be done?
Entering highways, for example. What do you guys do on that?
MR. KELTNER: The determination of where a roadblock or saturation patrol is
conducted is typically organized by the district commander. The information that
you got yesterday was actually data that was obviously taken from our department
into another system. And I worked with them kind of gathering some of that, and
then the presentation was outstanding. I used some of the presentation that they
created with the outside entity that was put back in to give to the district
commander to show that those corridors—and that's really important that those
corridors are identified so that then they can focus those DUI roadblocks and
saturation patrols in those areas. Obviously, officers have the full authority to set
those up anywhere on the island that is a public roadway.
MR. CHUNG: Okay, so, they could do it on highways.
MR. KELTNER: They do, do it on highways.
MR. CHUNG: Terrific. Okay.
MR. KELTNER: Yeah, there are times and it depends. I mean, there are areas
where they—if it's unsafe to set it up on a particular stretch, they won't do that.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah, of course.
MR. KELTNER: And we found that the saturation patrols are working very well.
I was speaking with one of the TEU (Traffic Enforcement Unit) sergeants
yesterday and it's actually working very well.
MR. CHUNG: That's terrific. It's kind of fortuitous that you're here today,
coming off the heels of that discussion. So, thank you very much.
MR. KELTNER: Thank you.
MR. CHUNG: I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Any other comments? Hearing none,
all in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 212: The motion to pass Bill 212 on first reading was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Bill 212 will move to second reading.
Bill 213: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
JUNE 30, 2021
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants —Speed Enforcement account($95,745);
and appropriates the same to the Speed Enforcement account, for a total
appropriation of$245,745. Funds would be used for speed enforcement
operations.
Reference: Comm. 1114
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 213 on first reading.
Seconded by Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MS. DAVID: Mr. Keltner? Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Program Manager Torey Keltner, Police Department,
came forward to address the members of the Council, via
videoconferencing from Hilo.)
MR. KELTNER: Thank you. So, the speed enforcement grant is obviously
another that we have a heavy focus on. We know that speed is definitely a factor
in major injuries and fatal crashes. By mitigating the speed that people are
driving, officers can prevent some of those crashes that are out there. One of the
things that was pointed out to me was that engineers design the roads, both State
and County, with certain speeds in mind. And when people exceed those speed
limits, the probability of them being involved in a major accident is higher. And
so, damage and injury are higher because of that.
So, this is an area where we're focusing on providing officers training and tools to
easily enforce those laws. This coming year, we're going to purchase 20 hand-
held laser units that are used when officers are in the field, in addition to the ones
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that they have. And we're going to get power supplies, batteries I guess it is, to
(inaudible) the units that they already have for the radars. We're going to train
20 additional officers for the radar and laser training. And we're going to
purchase a StealthStat, which is a data collection instrument that we can put in
different locations to see speeds and traffic density and those kinds of things so
that we can focus the enforcement in particular areas. And again, the big thing for
this is to make sure that we're in the areas where those accidents, injuries, and
things are occurring.
There are mobilizations where they have enforcement periods that are encouraged
by the DOT, and we like to have mobilizations for speed many times a year. And
that's why people see so many officers out and doing that. So, thank you.
MS. DAVID: Mahalo for that. And I ask for your support. I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. I think Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder had a
question or a comment.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Mr. Keltner. Just a general
question. So, the areas where you're going to be using all of these different funds
and different programs, these are going to be centered around areas that you know
are problematic. Correct?
MR. KELTNER: Yes.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. So, areas where we do not see
problems, I would not expect to see these techniques being utilized.
MR. KELTNER: Well, the focus is on areas where there's a problem. So, if an
officer is traveling to and from a call or if there's an area that we get a good
citizen complaint about things, they will at times be in areas where they're
enforcing those issues as well.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. And these decisions will be based on
data that you're pulling as far as why you're seeing a lot of these issues coming
up—DUI, speeding, whatever it may be.
MR. KELTNER: Correct.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you, sir.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you.
MR. KELTNER: Thank you.
MR. RICHARDS: Chair?
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead, Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate the conversations, probably
coming from a little bit different angle. We talked about speed enforcement.
We're talking excessive speed but also again, like Chair Chung said yesterday, we
had these questions come up, especially the mauka road going to Kona. When
you have people driving below the speed limit, we start obstructing traffic and we
start getting people taking chances because they are getting very frustrated. So,
funny question but, so, are you also talking about people going too slow for speed
enforcement?
MR. KELTNER: Yes. The officer will, at times, enforce under the legal posted
speed limit as well, and there are signs posting what that limit is. So, the officers
do stop people, issue citations, counsel them at times as well, yes.
MR. RICHARDS: Because, that's one of the things that my office receives
complaints on is obstruction of traffic. And thereby, we start getting people
taking chances and getting more upset. And I don't think that helps our situation.
So, I just wanted to throw that out there. Thanks. I yield.
MR. KELTNER: If I could comment, Madam Chair. One of the things that I
encourage the community to do is we have, through the Police Department, we
have a way for them to file a traffic complaint, not necessarily with the Dispatch
Center. If it's something that occurred yesterday, they can get online and go to
the webpage and find the area where they can submit a traffic complaint. It
actually comes through my office. It's my email that's attached to it. It will come
to me and we'll send out a letter to the person who is the registered owner of the
vehicle of the complaint that they had against them. It doesn't give the person's
name or anything along those lines, but it says that we received this information.
We write many of those letters annually and it's a very good thing.
The agency that I came from before the Hawaii Police Department, we didn't do
that and I really am—it's a very good program that's out there because I get
responses from parents of children or—they borrowed somebody's car. When it's
the registered owner that gets the letter, it has a pretty good impact. So, yeah. If
we could encourage people to go and do that, it would be great.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, so, follow up on that, then, can you send us that link to
the Council as a whole, and I'm sure we can all communicate that out.
MR. KELTNER: Will do. Absolutely.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. I appreciate that. Chair, also I think one of your mics
are open. We're getting a lot of feedback on this side. I yield.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Is that it? Okay, all in favor please say
Ic aye.
MS. LEE LOY: Chair, I have a question for Mr. Keltner.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Mr. Keltner, thank you.
MR. KELTNER: Thank you.
MS. LEE LOY: I actually have more of a fiscal question. Because when we do
speed enforcement, we issue a ticket. And then that ticket is paid, but those funds
go to the State. And then, they turn around and give it back to us in a grant. Is
that kind of the accurate cycle?
MR. KELTNER: I don't think that's accurate. I don't think that's correct
because the funds are actually coming from the National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration. So, I don't think that's it. I apologize. I don't know the
economic flow of how that is, but I know that it's not—the Department of
Transportation, we don't get that directly as a result of the number of speeding
citations we write.
MS. LEE LOY: Okay. You know what? Maybe I'll have a conversation offline
with you because my understanding is speeding ticket is paid to the courts. It
goes into a State bucket of money. I know this is different. But I guess I'm just
wondering how many tickets we're issuing and if we're actually getting the
money back to help pay for our officers who are doing the work. But we can have
that conversation offline.
MR. KELTNER: I'll find out.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Any other comments?
Seeing none, all in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 213: The motion to pass Bill 213 on first reading was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Bill 213 will go to second reading.
Bill 214.
Bill 214: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
JUNE 30, 2021
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants —HCPD Traffic Investigative Program
account($241,564.86); and appropriates the same to the HCPD Traffic
Investigative Program account, for a total appropriation of$351,564.86. Funds
would be used for training and equipment for traffic accident investigations.
Reference: Comm. 1115
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 214 on first reading.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Mr. Keltner, this is your last one, I believe. Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Program Manager Torey Keltner, Police Department,
came forward to address the members of the Council, via
videoconferencing from Hilo.)
MR. KELTNER: Thank you, Madam. The traffic services grant is one that
provides training and equipment for officers specifically around the investigation
of traffic crashes. And so, this year we're going to actually bring the at-scene
traffic investigation course to our County. We're going to have 20 officers attend
that. Some of them will be TEU officers that are currentlyI'm sorry, Traffic
Enforcement Officers that are currently assigned to the unit and officers that are
identified by the district commanders that they would want to have them do that.
Typically, we're going to encourage that they will be officers that would, at some
point, become traffic enforcement officers so they establish a base training level.
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We want to have them attend the four IPTM (Institute of Police Technology and
Management) courses on Oahu. There's some advanced traffic investigation
courses that they will go through in that period. And that's something that
Honolulu PD has, until this last year, hosted for many years. There's various
courses and it does help the officers get the accurate data and the ability to
provide that when it comes to court, and then identifying the causation of crashes
in that. And that information is used by the Department of Transportation to help
with engineering, and it's a very good source of that information.
We're going to do what's an EDR, electronic download recorder, course here
that's where they download the black box, basically, out of a disabled vehicle or a
car that's been involved in a major fatal crash—and get more officers trained in
that. We have to get another upgrade kit. We don't have all the proper
connections and instruments to go with the EDR Bosch device that was purchased
years ago. We're going to upgrade that, get everything up to speed for the traffic
enforcement unit here on the east side of the island.
And then, we're going to purchase one like an RTC scan station, I guess it is. It's
an instrument that actually will do a 3D (three dimensional) analysis of the area,
pinpointing exact locations. And they can recreate a three-dimensional rendering
of an accident location. So, for obviously identifying where issues and the
accident problems are at. Thank you.
MS. DAVID: Mahalo for that. And before I yield, I would just like to thank you
for your very comprehensive explanation about this important program for the
Police Department, and also for your patience. So, I'll ask for my colleagues'
support and I yield. Thanks.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you.
MR. KELTNER: Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Director Kucharski has been waiting hereoh, I'm sorry.
All in favor,please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 214: The motion to pass Bill 214 on first reading was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff–9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Bill 214 will move to second reading.
Okay, now, Director Kucharski's been very patiently waiting here and I see at
least I think there's two items. Yup. So, we'll start with Bill 207, Draft 2
207, under bills for first reading.
Bill 207: AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE MANAGEMENT OF SOLID WASTE IN
(Draft 2) THE COUNTY OF HAWAII, THAT AMENDS THE FOLLOWING
PROVISIONS OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS
AMENDED):
1) CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 40 (DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
MANAGEMENT);
2) CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE 20 (PLASTIC BAG REDUCTION); NEW
ARTICLE 24 (LITTERING ); NEW ARTICLE 25 (CLEARING OCCUPIED
AND UNOCCUPIED LOTS); AND
3) CHAPTER 20 (REFUSE), NEW CHAPTER 20 (INTEGRATED SOLID
WASTE MANAGEMENT)
Reorganizes and restructures provisions of the Hawaii County Code that apply to
the Department of Environmental Management, updates certain provisions including
qualifications for the Director of the Department of Environmental Management, and
removes the solid waste disposal fee schedule, which would be added to the
Department of Environmental Management's Administrative Rules.
Reference: Comm. 1097.2
Intr. by: Mr. Richards (B/R)
Approve: AWEEMC-17
Motion to Approve: Mr. Richards moved to pass Bill 207, Draft 2, on first
reading and adopt Agriculture, Water, Energy, and
Environmental Management Committee Report No. 17.
Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Mr. Richards. Do you want Mr. Kucharski up at the
table?
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, thank you. Please, Bill.
(Note: At this time, Environmental Management Director William
Kucharski came forward to address the members of the Council.)
MR. RICHARDS: We had a very good discussion on this in Committee and Bill
wasn't able to attend. So, like we discussed yesterday in Committee, for the next
iteration let Bill cover this. Again, a lot of housekeeping in here. And there was
some miscommunications on this or misinformation, but I think we got that all
fixed in Committee. So, Bill,please, take it away.
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MR. KUCHARSKI: Bill Kucharski, Director of DEM (Department of
Environmental Management). What this is doing is cleaning up our Solid Waste
rules. They were scattered all over the Code. The plastic bag ban was in one
chapter. Some of the others were in all different chapters. We've consolidated it
down, putting them all into Chapter 20. I know there was some fear when the
plastic bag ban appeared to be deleted but it was just moved. And we've gone in
there.
The one big change in here for you is the fact that what these amendments in this
bill do is move the solid waste tipping fees from Code into our Administrative
Rules, which means that, right now, if we change tipping fees, they had to be
approved by Council because it was in the Code. We have proposed moving that
into our Administrative Rules, which we're going to have a hearing on, I think,
the 18'h of November. So, that is really the biggest change in this. Most of
theseagain, there was language cleaned up to make it consistent throughout.
And again, this is more of a housekeeping and consolidation than putting anything
new in there.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Council Members, is thereoh,
Mr. Richards, I believe you still have the floor.
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, thank you, Chair. Again, we had a great discussion on
all of this, so I'm just asking for your support. Cleaning this up, as was stated,
because Environmental Management didn't exist as a department when this was
initially put in place. So, this is all putting it in one. Thanks, Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thanks for being here, Bill. So, if you
wanted to change tipping fees, what would be the process, then? It would be
under Administrative Rule with no Council oversight.
MR. KUCHARSKI: In order to raise tipping fees, two to three things have to
happen. Number one, we have to propose the changes. We need to have public
hearings to get comment on the change in rules. And then, when final rules are
proposed, they need to be signed by the Mayor.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Is that unique to Environmental
Management, or is that just the way we do it?
MR. KUCHARSKI: That's actually more normal. We're one of the few
departments that have their rates and fees in Code. Parks, all of their for
instance, all of Parks and Recreation's fees are set by Administrative Rules, not
by Code.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you. We had some discussion
around the Building Code, a lot of different people saying there is Administrative
Rules that were frustrating. But I came to learn that usually there's a process
there that was followed, not just a rule that's made up and upheld by the
department. So, I just thank you for clarifying that.
MR. KUCHARSKI: Yes, sir.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: That was a good side question. Thank you,
Bill.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Any other comments? Ms. Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Aloha, Bill. Thanks for being here today, answering these
questions. I may have answered it for myself, but one of the questions I had and
forgot to talk about in our lengthy discussion the last time this came up related to
the addition of the littering—Article 24. That defines littering and goes through
all that. Was that moved from another place or was that added?
MR. KUCHARSKI: I believe the littering was moved. This is not new language.
This is existing language from the Code that we have shifted over. But there were
no changes in littering. It's something that I've had a desire to change but have
the list just was longer than the time. And this is something that I think deserves
some look and modification in the future. But for this, it's just a transfer of
location.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay. Good to know because there was extreme concern also
related. There were a lot of people's radar got plucked and a lot of concern
around thankfully, it was not the case that the plastic bag ban was being
removed. But it's also been common practice and precedent for petroleum
companies to start to mess with littering laws because it transitions the
responsibility of waste from the producer to the user. And so, that being kind of a
political play there, I'm really grateful that, that is not the case under these
circumstances. And that those who were very concerned, that I hope are listening,
understand and know that, then, we're just transitioning the terminology that was
already in existence in our Code to another location in order for it to be cleaned
up.
MR. KUCHARSKI: Yeah. And so long as I'm here, there will not be slight of
hand as far as moving and deleting things. And I'm sorry, I forgot to tell you
that's not going to happen.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thanks, Bill. I appreciate that. I appreciate you. I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you, Ms. Villegas. Are there any questions or
comments from Hilo, Council Members? Hearing none, Ms. David.
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MS. DAVID: Thank you, Chair. Director Kucharski, I'm really happy to see
you. Welcome back. The only comment I have is just to thank you and your
department for taking this step in consolidation and cleaning up of our Code so
that it's in conformance and it's not I think that's something that was a vision
many years ago. And it's really refreshing to see that your department is taking a
step forward on this, and other departments as well in the County. So, this is a
really great step so that we come up to par. I think even the Clerk's office is
doing that too. Awesome. I just want to say thank you because this is very
important that we be consistent.
MR. KUCHARSKI: Thank you, Council Member David. I guess every 20 or
30 years or so, you really should clean house.
MS. DAVID: Well, sometimes longer. But thank you very much for that and I
yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you very much. Seeing no further
comments, all in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 207: The motion to pass Bill 207, Draft 2, on first reading and
Draft 2 adopt Agriculture, Water, Energy, and Environmental
(Approved) Management Committee Report No. 17 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Bill 207, Draft 2, moves to second reading. I believe
there's one more. Under "Order of the Day,"we have to vote again on
Resolution 741-20.
MR. HENRICKS: I don't have a 741.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Under second reading. I don't know why
MR. HENRICKS: Oh. Excuse me.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: It's there. I guess because it took three readings.
MR. HENRICKS: I got you. Condemnation.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: I believe it took three readings.
MR. HENRICKS: Hang on.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: 741.
MR. HENRICKS: It's under second reading because it's a condemnation.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Right.
MR. HENRICKS: Okay. Let me catch up with you, please.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Sure.
MR. HENRICKS: Okay, I'm there.
Res. 741-20: AUTHORIZES THE ACQUISITION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY BY EMINENT
DOMAIN OF A PORTION OF TAX MAP KEY: 9-6-002:018, SITUATED AT
PUNALU'U-PA`AU'AU, DISTRICT OF KAT, COUNTY AND STATE OF
HAWAII, FOR THE PAHALA WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT
A portion of the approximately 14.9-acre property is desired by the County for
temporary easements for construction and operations, and for storage and disposal
areas.
Reference: Comm. 1091
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
First Reading: October 7, 2020
Note: Second of two required readings,
Section 101-13, Hawaii Revised Statutes
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Res. 741-20 on second and final
reading. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Well, if Mr. Kucharski wants to say anything, I think we've
discussed this quite intently prior. So, I yield at this time.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay.
(Note: At this time, Environmental Management Director William
Kucharski came forward to address the members of the Council.)
MR. KUCHARSKI: Bill Kucharski, Director of DEM. This is for a property for
the Pahala wastewater treatment facility that is required by an Administrative
Order of Consent from EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) for closure of
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large capacity cesspools. This property is currently owned by Kamehameha
Schools. And I must say, for full disclosure, that they are not happy with the
assessment and the assessment amount, and they have agreed to this but with the
reservation that they're not yielding any rights as this moves forward. And to the
degree that the Code allows us to consider these concerns, we're more than happy
to go forward.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, Council Membersoh, Ms. David, you still have
the floor.
MS. DAVID: I think I yielded, thank you, to the director. Thanks.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Are there any questions from Hilo for Mr. Kucharski?
MS. LEE LOY: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. We had a hard time hearing Mr. Kucharski's
explanation at the end there. If he could repeat that. I think it had a lot to do with
the landowner.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Correct. Okay. You want to speak a little closer to the
mic.
MR. KUCHARSKI: Bill Kucharski again.
MR. CHUNG: Karen?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes?
MR. CHUNG: Actually, because of my old age, I was telling Sue I couldn't
really hear what Bill said, but I thought it had to do with the landowner. So, I
kind of understood. So, it's not necessary for him to re-explain. But does he or
anyone else know or is able to explain this thing about what Sandra Demoruelle
has brought up regarding that community's accessibility to different findings? I
mean, is that a fatal flaw or is it okay or what? I mean, I think it should be
addressed.
MR. KUCHARSKI: Bill Kucharski, DEM. The site has gone through a full
environmental assessment in conjunction with EPA because Federal funds were
done. So, it was an EA (environmental assessment), EIS (Environmental Impact
Statement), or at least Federal EA that was also completed. Those concerns were
evaluated and not deemed significant. And this is a layman's presentation of
what's in the EA. But it came out with a Finding of No Significant Impact, and
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that includes access and flooding and consideration of the design of the proposed
facility within the confines of the EA analysis. And that's all I can address on
that.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah. Bill, it's not so much the substance of the findings, but
there's some suggestion that the community was not able to review those findings
because of the COVID (coronavirus disease) situation and the closures of the
Ka`u library or libraries. I just want to make sure we're dotting our "i"s, crossing
our "t"s on this matter. Do you have any comment on that?
MR. KUCHARSKI: Yes, sir. Again, Bill Kucharski. The requirements of the
EA are that you provide a 30-day comment period. This was provided to the
community on the EA. We then got requests to extend the comment period, and
OEQC (Office of Environmental Quality Control) does not allow an extension.
We had to refile the identical EA and open it up for another 30-day comment
period. And so, to come in and say that there was not an opportunity to review
the document is not necessarily, in my opinion, fully accurate.
When the final FONSI(Finding of No Significant Impact) was put out, there were
hardcopies provided. But with COVID, access might not have been available, but
all of the FONSI was available online. I don't know what else to say. We
followed all of the required laws and regulations for presentation and availability
of the documents for the public.
MR. CHUNG: Okay. So, it was addressed, right,by your department? And what
about, if you could in, like, two or three sentences,just tell us what this motion for
a preliminary injunction is all about. It's before U.S. District Judge Kobayashi.
MR. KUCHARSKI: I'm not certain whether you're talking about a Federal suit
or the State suit.
MR. CHUNG: It's a Federal. I mean, it's just referenced in this letter, and I just
want to make sure that we address it.
MR. KUCHARSKI: Again, not being a direct party to the Federal lawsuit—
MR.
awsuitMR. CHUNG: Oh, look, Joe is here. Joe's coming in to our chamber.
MR. KUCHARSKI: That would be a better source. Thank you.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah.
(Note: At this time, Corporation Counsel Joseph Kamelamela came
forward to address the members of the Council.)
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MR. CHUNG: So, Joe, I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Bill. So,
in three sentences or less, we're talking about the Ka`u sewage treatment plant.
There's a reference in a letter by Sandra Demoruelle about a motion for a
preliminary injunction before U.S. District Court Judge Kobayashi.
MR. KAMELAMELA: Correct.
MR. CHUNG: Can you just tell us what the basis is for that motion?
MR. KAMELAMELA: Well, essentially that she's questioning the process in
which the EA had been going through.
MR. CHUNG: Oh, okay.
MR. KAMELAMELA: So, that's all she's questioning.
MR. CHUNG: All right.
MR. KAMELAMELA: And as of today, there has been no order because she's
asking the court to stop the proceedings.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah, all right. Okay, all right. Thank you. That's all. Thank
you for the clarification. I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair.
MS. LEE LOY: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Go ahead, Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. In Committee, I voted "kanalua-yes,"not because I
don't think we need to do this. I have some concerns around the landowner—KS
(Kamehameha Schools), which is a trust—and at our Committee meeting, Joe
gave us some assurances that KS, this is the process that they're asking for.
Absolutely. I just continue to have a personal concern of what eminent domain
does by taking trust lands out of a trust and why I will be continuing to support it
with a kanalua-yes. If this is the process that's being outlined by the landowner
going forward, that's fine. I do just have concerns of how we treat our trust lands,
especially in an eminent domain proceeding. Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Anybody else? Ms. Poindexter.
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, I just want to say that KS has a lot of land throughout
the entire island, especially Hamakua. They bought up all our access—mountain
and ocean access. And they're trust lands. So, I just put it out there. Think what
you want to think or kind of guess what I want to say. But anyway, thank you.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Any further discussion? Seeing none,
all in favor please say "aye."
Vote on The motion to pass Res. 741-20 on second and final
Res. 741-20: reading was carried by the following voice vote:
(Adopted)
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
(Note: Ms. Lee Loy voted "kanalua"then "aye.")
ACTING CHR. EOFF: The resolution is adopted. Correct, Mr. Clerk, that's the
final reading?
MR. HENRICKS: Yes, that was the second and final reading.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, mahalo. Thank you, Director. Okay, Council
Members, I know it's been a long time and there hasn't been a break, but
hopefully we've taken breaks as needed. I was hoping to get through the rest of
the agenda and then just be finished for the day. So, if there's no objections and
no more requests for out of order, let's just go to the top where we left off.
Resolution 734-20 would be the next one.
Return to Order The Acting Chair directed the Council to return to the order of business.
of Business:
Res. 734-20: AUTHORIZES THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII
Provides $21,850.16 from the Department of Research and Development to the
University of Hawaii to fund its Extension Services to Manage Little Fire Ants on
Hawaii Island project. Funds would be used to distribute outreach materials,
provide staff support, and for supplies and travel.
Reference: Comm. 1082
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-142
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 734-20 and Finance
Committee Report No. 142. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
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MS. DAVID: I just ask for your continued support. Mahalo.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. All in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 734-20: The motion to adopt Res. 734-20 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 142 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Res. 735-20: AUTHORIZES THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII
Provides $13,076 from the Department of Research and Development to the
University of Hawaii to fund its Increasing Production of Novel Floriculture
Products for Import Replacement project. Funds would be used to purchase plant
and propagation materials, and for costs associated with cultivation and data
collection.
Reference: Comm. 1083
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-143
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 735-20 and Finance
Committee Report No. 143. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: I ask for your continued support. Mahalo.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, all in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 735-20: The motion to adopt Res. 735-20 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 143 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Res. 736-20: AUTHORIZES THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF HAWAII, DEPARTMENT OF
AGRICULTURE PURSUANT TO HAWAII REVISED STATUTES
SECTION 46-7, FOR A GRANT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF RESEARCH
AND DEVELOPMENT
Funds in the amount of$49,896 would be used for the North Kohala Coqui Frog
Control project, to prevent the establishment of the coqui frog in the North Kohala
district.
Reference: Comm. 1084
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-144
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Thank you. I will defer this to Council Member Richards, as this is
his to make the motion. Thank you.
MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, madam.
Motion to Approve: Mr. Richards moved to adopt Res. 736-20 and Finance
Committee Report No. 144. Seconded by Ms. David.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Do you have a comment, Mr. Richards?
MR. RICHARDS: North Kohala has worked really hard on controlling their
coqui, and they've done a really good job doing it. So, we just ask for my
colleagues' support.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Okay, all in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 736-20: The motion to adopt Res. 736-20 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 144 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Res. 737-20: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR
AND OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-YEAR LEASE OF
ONE 20-YARD DUMP TRUCK FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an
approximate monthly cost of$3,594. The County would own the equipment at the
end of the lease.
Reference: Comm. 1085
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-145
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 737-20 and Finance
Committee Report No. 145. Seconded by Mr. Richards.
MS. DAVID: I just want to ask for your continued support. Thanks.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay. All in favor
MR. RICHARDS: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Oh, Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah. Again, ditto. I know Parks and Rec. are really looking
forward to getting this so they can do more work faster. Yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Was there another comment? Hearing
none, all in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 737-20: The motion to adopt Res. 737-20 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 145 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Thank you.
Res. 738-20: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR
AND OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-YEAR LEASE OF
ONE ELECTRICIAN UTILITY VEHICLE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an
approximate monthly cost of$1,366. The County would own the equipment at the
end of the lease.
Reference: Comm. 1086
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-146
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 738-20 and Finance
Committee Report No. 146. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
MS. DAVID: I ask for your continued support. Mahalo.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor please
say "aye."
Vote on Res. 738-20: The motion to adopt Res. 738-20 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 146 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
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Res. 747-20: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO HAWAII CHILDREN'S
ACTION NETWORK TO ASSIST WITH OPERATING EXPENSES FOR ITS
HAWAII PARENT LEADERSHIP TRAINING INSTITUTE PROGRAM
Transfers $1,250 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 5); and credits to the Department of Liquor Control, Public
Programs account.
Reference: Comm. 1102
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 747-20.
Seconded by Ms. David.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Comments?
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I ask for your support. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. All in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 747-20: The motion to adopt Res. 747-20 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Res. 748-20: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO HOSPICE OF HILO TO
CREATE A POHAI MALAMA CARE CENTER BROCHURE
Transfers $1,000 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 5); and credits to the Office of Aging, Other Current Expenses
account.
Reference: Comm. 1103
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
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Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 748-20.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I ask for your support.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. All in favor,please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 748-20: The motion to adopt Res. 748-20 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Res. 751-20: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO THE WAIKOLOA
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR REIMBURSEMENT
OF EXPENSES RELATED TO THE PRODUCTION OF FACE MASKS FOR
THE KEIKI AND KUPUNA WITHIN THE WAIKOLOA COMMUNITY
Transfers $1,250 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 9); and credits to the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney, Other
Current Expenses account.
Reference: Comm. 1108
Intr. by: Mr. Richards
Motion to Approve: Mr. Richards moved to adopt Res. 751-20. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Any discussion?
MR. RICHARDS: This is very self-explanatory and we all understand why. I
just ask for support.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. All in favor, say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 751-20: The motion to adopt Res. 751-20 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Res. 752-20: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO FRIENDS OF THE FUTURE
FOR THE TAKE A STAND AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMMUNITY
AWARENESS INITIATIVE
Transfers $1,500 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 9); and credits to the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney, Other
Current Expenses account.
Reference: Comm. 1109
Intr. by: Mr. Richards
Motion to Approve: Mr. Richards moved to adopt Res. 752-20. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Do you have a comment?
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, I just ask for your support. We all know this is a
problem in our community, and it appears to be getting worse in this COVID-19
time. So, I just ask for your support.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. All in favor,please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 752-20: The motion to adopt Res. 752-20 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Res. 753-20: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF
APPROXIMATELY 800,000 SINGLE-USE MEDICAL MASKS FROM THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT SAN FRANCISCO TO THE CIVIL
DEFENSE AGENCY
The masks, with an estimated value of approximately $2 million, including freight
expenses, would be distributed to the public at COVID-19 testing sites and other
venues.
Reference: Comm. 1116
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 753-20. Seconded by
Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Yes. I think, on this one, Chair Chung had questions during
Committee, and I would like to defer to him. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Did you have a comment or question, Mr. Chung?
MR. CHUNG: Didn't Deanna come in and answer those questions the last time?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah.
MS. DAVID: Oh, okay. All right. Perfect then. I'll wait I mean, I'll yield.
Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay. Ms. Villegas, did you have a question?
MS. VILLEGAS: Sure. I just wanted to point out in the resolution, in the last
"BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED" on the first page, it says, "sent to Mr. Jake
Limbert," and it says, "USCF." And I believe it's supposed to say, "UCSF"
University of California, San Francisco. I think that probably was transposed
accidentally from the letter that came from the Department of Finance, listed
under Part B on the "Background and Justification." The contact there has been
accidentally typed up as "USCF Health," instead of"UCSF Health."
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Yes. Good catch. I see that.
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MS. VILLEGAS: Okay, great. And then, I just feel like I would be remiss not to
point out that the University of California is listed as one of the primary
supporters of the TMT telescope. And I think it behooves our County to take into
consideration and acknowledge that a donation with a value of$2 million for
800,000 masks contributed exclusively to the County of Hawaii and not to any
other county within the State. I would urge caution and diligence when tracking.
As grateful as we are for this contribution and the masks are very well needed, I
want to make sure that there are very clear lines and no strings. So,just wanted to
point that out for the public to see and take acknowledgment of. So, with that, I
yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Mr. Clerk,just a technical question. Do we
need to actually make a motion to amend to fix this typo?
MR. HENRICKS: Only if you want to fix it. I mean, we'll definitely get the
letter to the right place. It's a matter of wanting that to be correct for the record
but it would create additional paperwork. But I'm glad that it was pointed out.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay. Then we'll just leave it on the record.
MS. VILLEGAS: I do want to point out, though, that USCF is the acronym for
another organization called, "United States Citizen Fund,"which is very different
than UCSF. Okay.
MR. HENRICKS: Understood. But we'll make sure that the resolution makes it
to the appropriate place. We'll note that at this point. Yeah.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Then, all in favor please say "aye."
Was there more discussion? Hearing none, all in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 753-20: The motion to adopt Res. 753-20 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
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Res. 755-20: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF PICKLEBALL
SUPPLIES FROM PAPA`ALOA PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY GROUP TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION
The supplies, with an estimated value of$1,400, would be used at the Papa`aloa
Park.
Reference: Comm. 1118
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to adopt Res. 755-20. Seconded by
Ms. Poindexter.
MS. DAVID: Thank you. I'll defer to Ms. Poindexter.
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Did you want to comment? Thank you. Go ahead.
MS. POINDEXTER: Thank you. I just want to give a big mahalo to
Dave Molenaar. I mean, he blows up my phone on pickleball in Papa`aloa. So,
he has taken the lead roll in advocating for our pickleball activities there in
Papa`aloa and appreciate all his support. So, thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. All in favor,please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 755-20: The motion to adopt Res. 755-20 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Okay,jumping down now to bills for
first reading, Bill 202, which is a companion to Resolution 736.
BILLS FOR The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES Bills for Ordinances (First Reading).
(FIRST READING):
(Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
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Bill 202: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2021
Appropriates revenues in State Grants —North Kohala Coqui Frog Control Project
account($49,896); and appropriates the same to the North Kohala Coqui Frog
Control Project account. Funds would be used to prevent the establishment of the
coqui frog in the North Kohala district.
Reference: Comm. 1084
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-148
Vote on Bill 202: Mr. Richards moved to pass Bill 202 on first reading and
(Approved) adopt Finance Committee Report No. 148. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Bill 203: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2021
Appropriates revenues in the Federal —Housing Assistance Program COVID-19
account($1,101,466); and appropriates the same to the Housing Assistance Program
COVID-19 account. Funds would be used to pay for an increase in Section 8 rent
due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Reference: Comm. 1087
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-149
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 203 on first reading and
adopt Finance Committee Report No. 149. Seconded by
Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: This is a companion to prior Resolution 739. Any
comments? Hearing none, all in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 203: The motion to pass Bill 203 on first reading and adopt
(Approved) Finance Committee Report No. 149 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Bill 204: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-44, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING THEREOF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
JULY 1, 2020 TO JUNE 30, 2021
Adds the Public Works Waika`alulu Bridge No. 44-8 project for $600,000 to the
Capital Budget. Funds for this project shall be provided from General Obligation
Bonds, Capital Projects Fund—Fund Balance and/or Other Sources.
Reference: Comm. 1088
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-150
Note: Requires 2/3 vote of the entire
membership to amend,pursuant to
Section 10-6(e), Hawai`i County Charter
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 204 on first reading and
adopt Finance Committee Report No. 150. Seconded by
Ms. Poindexter.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Yes. I ask for your continued support. I yield.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Comments? Hearing none, all in favor
please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 204: The motion to pass Bill 204 on first reading and adopt
(Approved) Finance Committee Report No. 150 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
Bill 205: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2021
Increases revenues in the following State Grant Program Income accounts: Periodic
Motor Vehicle Inspection (PMVI) ($12,787) and Commercial Drivers License
(CDL) ($11,360); and appropriates the same to the following Salary & Wages
accounts: PMVI ($12,787) and CDL ($11,360), for total appropriations of$448,716
(PMVI), and $378,270 (CDL).
Reference: Comm. 1089
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Approve: FC-151
Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 205 on first reading and
adopt Finance Committee Report No. 151. Seconded by
Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: I ask for your continued support.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. All in favor,please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 205: The motion to pass Bill 205 on first reading and adopt
(Approved) Finance Committee Report No. 151 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Okay, we went through the remainder of
the bills for first reading, I believe. So, under second and final reading, Bill 192.
ORDER OF The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
THE DAY Order of the Day (Second or Final Reading).
(SECOND OR
FINAL READING): (Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
Bill 192: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-44, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING THEREOF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
JULY 1, 2020 TO JUNE 30, 2021
Adds the Public Works Bridge Inspection & Appraisal - Federal project for $160,000
to the Capital Budget. Funds for this project shall be provided from Federal Grants
Receivable.
Reference: Comm. 1060
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
First Reading: October 7, 2020
Note: Requires 2/3 vote of the entire
membership to amend,pursuant to
Section 10-6(e), Hawai`i County Charter
Vote on Bill 192: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 192 on second and final
(Adopted) reading. Seconded by Ms. Poindexter and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
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ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries and Bill 192 is approved.
Bill 196: AMENDS CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 4, OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983
(Draft 2) (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), BY ADDING A NEW SECTION RELATING
TO FISCAL IMPACT STATEMENTS
Allows for the Finance Director to initiate, or any Council Member to request from
the Finance Director, a Fiscal Impact Statement for any Bill for an Ordinance, except
for Bills that initiate an amendment to the Hawai'i County Charter or that establish
the upcoming fiscal year operating budget or capital budget.
Reference: Comm. 1059.2
Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy
First Reading: October 7, 2020
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to pass Bill 196, Draft 2, on second
and final reading. Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Ms. Lee Loy, would you like to comment?
MS. LEE LOY: No. Just ask for your continued support. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Thank you. All in favor, say "aye."
Vote on Bill 196: The motion to pass Bill 196, Draft 2, on second and final
Draft 2 reading was carried by the following voice vote:
(Adopted)
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Bill 196, Draft 2, is approved.
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Bill 206: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 20-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
JUNE 30, 2021
Appropriates revenues in the State Grants —Hawai`i County Food Access Summit
Program account($26,000); and appropriates the same to the Hawaii County
Food Access Summit Program account for the 2020 Fall Hawaii County Food
Access Virtual Summit and 2021 Hawaii County Food Access Summit projects.
Reference: Comm. 1092
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
First Reading: October 7, 2020
Vote on Bill 206: Ms. David moved to pass Bill 206 on second and final
(Adopted) reading. Seconded by Ms. Villegas and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries and I believe Ms. David wants to make
another motion.
Vote on Motion to Ms. David moved to suspend Council Rule 15 to waive the
Suspend Council 5-day hold for reconsideration. Seconded by Ms. Villegas
Rules: and carried by the following voice vote:
(Approved)
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Return to ACTING CHR. EOFF: While we're doing that, I think we need to go back to
Res. 756-20: Resolution 756. Did you want to do that, Ms. David?
MS. DAVID: Yes, I'll do that. Thank you.
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Vote on Motion to Ms. David moved to suspend Council Rule 15 to waive the
Suspend Council 5-day hold for reconsideration. Seconded by Ms. Villegas
Rules: and carried by the following voice vote:
(Approved)
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. That takes us, I think, to the last item on
our agenda, which is under "Reports."
MR. HENRICKS: Yes, Madam Chair.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair?
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Oh, sorry. Yes?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I was just going to make a motion for this one.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Oh, go ahead.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Motion to approve Maria Shon Magsalin
MR. HENRICKS: May I read it in? Sorry.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Oh, go ahead.
MR. HENRICKS: I have yet to read it in. I apologize. It's very quick.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Oh, okay. We're jumping the gun.
MR. HENRICKS: It'll take two seconds.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: We have to read it in first.
REPORTS: The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
Reports.
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PSC-16 APPOINTMENT OF MARIA SHON MAGSALIN TO THE FIRE
(Comm. 1080): COMMISSION
Requires Council
Confirmation by: November 1, 2020 (Section 13-4(l),
Hawaii County Charter)
Vote on PSC-16: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to adopt Public Safety Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 16. Seconded by Ms. Poindexter and carried by
the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries.
REFERRALS FOR The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
EXECUTIVE Referrals for Executive Session.
SESSION:
(There were none.)
OTHER The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
BUSINESS: Other Business.
(There were none.)
ANNOUNCE- The Acting Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
MENTS: Announcements.
(There were none.)
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Council Members, I believe that takes us to the end of the
agenda.
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ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 12:11 p.m., Ms. Villegas moved to adjourn the
MENT: meeting. Seconded by Ms. David and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Chung, David,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and Acting
Chair Eoff—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. EOFF: Motion carries. Thank you very much, everybody.
Aloha. Oh, the meeting's adjourned.
Council Approval: NOV 1 8 2020
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