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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2021/07/06 2020-2022Committee on Finance 14th Session Hawaii County Building 25 Aupuni Street Hilo, Hawaii July 6, 2021 CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at ORDER: 1:30 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Mr. Matt Kaneali`i- Kleinfelder, Chair. ROLL CALL: Present: Mr. Matt Kaneali`i- Kleinfelder, Chair Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Vice Chair Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung, Member Ms. Maile Medeiros David, Member Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member Mr. Herbert M. "Tim" Richards III, Member Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items. PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS: The Chair called Carolyn Pellett, who registered to speak in opposition to Res. 142-21 (Comm. 280) and in opposition to Bill 45 (Comm. 294), and came forward when called. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Then, Mr. Clerk, if we can, let's do our communications. COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, CATIONS: Communications. Comm. 30.12: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: MAY 16 — 31, 2021 From Controller Kay Oshiro, dated June 10, 2021. FC -14 Vote on Comm. 30.12 Filed Ms. Kimball moved to close file on Comm. 30.12. Seconded by Ms. David and carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. July 6, 2021 Comm. 31.14: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: MAY 16 — 31, 2021 From Finance Director Deanna Sako, dated June 4, 2021, transmitting the above report pursuant to Hawaii County Code Section 2-12.3. Vote on Comm. 31.14: Ms. Kimball moved to close file on Comm. 31.14. Filed Seconded by Mr. Richards and carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. Comm. 57.2: REPORT OF DONATIONS RECEIVED FROM THE DANIEL R. SAYRE MEMORIAL FOUNDATION AS OF MAY 21, 2021 From Finance Director Deanna Sako, dated June 3, 2021, transmitting the above report pursuant to Resolution 468-20. Motion to Close File: Ms. Kimball moved to close file on Comm. 57.2. Seconded by Mr. Richards. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, any discussion? MR. RICHARDS: Chair, real quick question. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yes, sir? MR. RICHARDS: Is this a running total since the beginning of our fiscal year, or is this just in the last time frame? CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: That is a good question. We do have the Fire Chief present. And maybe you can answer that question better. Page 2 FC -14 July 6, 2021 MR. RICHARDS: "Running total," the Chief says. Thank you, Chief. Thanks, Chair, I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And then, did you want to talk about this today, Chief? Anything you want to mention, or just mahalo to the Sayre Foundation, and their ongoing support of our Fire Department? (Note: At this time, Fire Chief Kazuo Todd came forward to address the members of the Committee.) CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for being here today. MR. TODD: So as you can see by the list, it's quite a few things that the Sayre Foundation has picked us up picked up. What was that? CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Could you state your name for the record? MR. TODD: Oh, my name is Kazuo Todd, the Fire Chief for the Hawaii Fire Department. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chief Todd. MR. TODD: And yeah, the list is quite extensive. It is over the course of the last year despite the fact that COVID-19 (Coronavirus Disease) has prevented them from holding their live event. They received quite a few donations this year, and were able to help us out immensely. So there's a quite a few things on that list, and of course the Fire Department is very, very grateful for the Sayre Foundation, and for them helping us out in our time of need. MR. RICHARDS: Thanks, Chief. And just for the public quick calculation, it looks like it's almost $800,000, so thank you very much to the Sayre Foundation. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thank you, Chief, and thank you to the Sayre Foundation, too. Amazing people who actually come and testify before us, and who continue to do better for our Fire Department, for our County. So mahalo to you if you're watching. Okay with that, any further discussion? Seeing none, all in favor of closing file on Communication 57.2 say, "aye." Page 3 FC -14 Vote on Comm. 57.2 Filed ORDER OF RESOLUTIONS July 6, 2021 The motion to close file on Comm. 57.2 was carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder – 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, Order of Resolutions. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And then let's skip over to—see, who we have there? I see different directors, different departments. Let's do 153-21. Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members, of Business: the following items were taken out of order: Res. 153-21: AUTHORIZES THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII Provides for a five-year agreement with the Department of Research and Development to partner with the community to advance knowledge and innovation through data visualization, for a period of five years. Reference: Comm. 303 Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i- Kleinfelder (B/R) Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to recommend adoption of Res. 153-21. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, any discussion? We do have Mr. Adam's here from the department, the Director of R&D (Research and Development), for discussion. MS. KIMBALL: Yeah, I'd like to ask Director Adams to come forward and tell us what this is about. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Ms. Kimball. And then please introduce yourself for the record, Mr. Adams. (Note: At this time, Research and Development Director Douglas Adams came forward to address the members of the Committee.) CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for being here today. Page 4 FC -14 July 6, 2021 MR. ADAMS: Thank you Council Chair Kaneali`i- Kleinfelder. Doug Adams, Research and Development. This is one of those examples of my department—and the folks in my department just being go-getters. So they connected with the University of Hawaii at Hilo, particularly in the data visualization classes there. The idea was to see if there was some work that could be done to connect the kind of work that we're doing, trying to develop some interactive platforms to provide information that we have available to us. And then, work with students and the staff and faculty at the University of Hawaii at Hilo in the courses that they've been conducting, and will conduct over the next five years to see what we can gain from both parties, from both sides. And so this date, they actually ran a program here as part of the—one of their data visualization courses this previous semester, obviously done virtually, and it turned out very, very nicely. And so this the idea was, "Hey, this makes a lot of sense," We need to because it's another government agency, we need to run a resolution. So we're very supportive of the fact that the resolution was provided by Department of Finance on our behalf and from the Council. So we would encourage strongly this is exactly what we want to be doing in terms of connecting with the university, and working with the university; and working to some degree with the students, giving them an opportunity to see, you know, what government looks like, even if that's not their primary goal. So it helps then our residents and the ability to try and find opportunities to provide interactivity where it can exist. MS. KIMBALL: Great. Thank you, Director Adams. I certainly will be putting my full support behind this resolution. This is like you say, an example, the types of partnerships that we want to see. And having worked with the Spatial Data Visualization Lab over there at UH (University of Hawai`i), I know that there is an excellent team over there. And the opportunity you're providing for students is really critical. You know, the tools themselves are very sophisticated. There's a lot you can do, but if you don't understand the customer service component and the ability to utilize mapping information and other data visualizations to drive decision-making, and how critical it is to understand what influence that has, I think is great, too. So it's definitely a win-win for both sides. I appreciate your staff for getting this going. MR. ADAMS: Thank you. Page 5 FC -14 July 6, 2021 MS. KIMBALL: I yield, Chair. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Ms. Kimball. Mr. Inaba, go ahead. MR. INABA: Aloha, Director Adams. Reading through this, it just says that we're going to be working in partnership to advance knowledge and innovation through data visualization. What's kind of the end of the line goal, or product, or anything that we're—our partnership is going to result in? MR. ADAMS: Council Member Inaba, the interesting thing about this is that I'm not sure I can tell you what the ultimate end result will be. I can tell you what the goal is; the goal is to provide platforms that our residents can interact with the information that we have available, both to us and in other places. So we're seeing some of that occur, right. We know that you are going to be talking about, if you haven't already done it, you're going to be talking about the Epic System that exists. That's going to be come on line. There's an element of that here. But we also have other data and other information that's available to us that we think will also be of interest to members of our community, particularly in the business community, for example. And so their ability to gather that information in a digital way, and in a way that makes sense to them, that they can pull it. We think that there's a lot to be gained from that. And then, what that looks like over the next five years, I think we're going to learn things as well during this process. MR. INABA: So this partnership is to kind of work with the university to help put together and visualize information that we're trying to get out? MR. ADAMS: It's data visualization platforms, and it's information that we have available to us. And we know that there's additional information. So for example, the census just conducted its biannual, right—decennial. So we know that there's going to be information that's coming from that. We would like to make that available. There's always the annual ACS (American Community Survey). That is part of the Census Bureau as well, making sure that that's available. But in addition, there are pieces of information that's going to be coming out of the innovation grants that we conduct as a part of our RFP (Request for Proposal) process, understanding how that's available, making that available, as well. We think that kind of information, which is not necessarily something that folks know about or have available to them is rhere are platforms that can be created in a way that—you know, wouldn't it be fun to go look for some of the stuff, and make it fun in a particular kind of way? So it's not just grey, it's not drab. I think that this whole idea of data visualization is an area that is right for our County, for our Page 6 FC -14 July 6, 2021 residents on this island actually to do well. We have creatives in our midst. Their ability to ability to take data and turn it in to particular platforms, in particular content, is something that we're going to be focused on because we think that there's they're there for us. What it looks like, if I could tell you that right now, then we should be doing it right now. MR. INABA: Thank you. I can visualize the partnership a little better now. Chair, I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Mr. Inaba, good questions. Mr. Richards, go ahead. MR. RICHARDS: Thanks, Chair. Director, I think that's a masterful way of approaching this. Get the young people and kind of get it in their head a little bit on how to get this information, because we get jaded in how we think we should interpret data. And this is actually, okay, how would you interpret it? I think that's masterful. MR. ADAMS: Yeah. I'd like to take complete credit for this, but— MR. ut MR. RICHARDS: Of course. MR. ADAMS: I think they were already doing it before I got there. MR. RICHARDS: That's alright. That's exactly what you should be doing, research and development, and to see what kind information we get. That's an excellent way. Thanks, Chair. I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Mr. Richards. Ms. Villegas, go ahead. MS. VILLEGAS: I just had a quick question. Now, is thisI was trying to think of an example of data visualization. And I thought of the PowerPoint presentation that you brought to us, where you guys had utilized all the vocabulary words that had been spoken during our community meetings, and therefore, then created visual charts that showed the number of times they were used, what the value systems were. You like connected it to other data points. Is that kind of what this does? MR. ADAMS: That's an example of data visualization. MS. VILLEGAS: Okay, great. Thank you. I just wanted to confirm that because it sounded like ding, ding, ding. Awesome. Thank you. Page 7 FC -14 July 6, 2021 CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thanks, Ms. Villegas. Ms. Kimball, go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm going to take Ms. Kierkiewicz. I didn't see her light. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Aloha, Director. I'm going to be supporting this. I was just wondering, and you may have the answer, you might not, if the information that we're going to be compiling through this collaboration is also going to be fed to the state's Hawaii Data Collaborative? MR. ADAMS: I don't know that. That is of course a private entity, right, and so any information that we would have would be public sector anyway. The connection with that I mean we have some connections with that organization on a personal level anyway, but we have not done anything at the moment that connects the substance to the content with that organization. And this is primarily a process, oriented outreach idea, right? So there's nothing that prevents us from doing that. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: If it's not too much to ask, I hope you explore that conversation. Hawaii Community Foundation is a huge supporter of that organization. And as we talk about public/private partnerships and aligning dollars so that we can amplify the positive impact we have as government, as philanthropy, it just makes sense to share the information. And also, because often times there are so many gaps at the State level as to what's happening on the various island, so I think it would be a great way for us to kind of show off all of the really good work that's happening on Hawaii Island. Thank you. I just wanted to make that note. Thank you, Chair. I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Ms. Kierkiewicz. Ms. Kimball, sorry, go ahead. MS. KIMBALL: Obviously, this is a time it gets to be very excited. If I hadn't mentioned it to you already, and then also to the rest of my colleagues, one of the place—Arizona State University has this thing called the Decision Theater, yeah, which I think is an excellent example of how powerful data visualization could be. My question that I didn't think of before is if we as Council Members have specific data visualization requests, will you guys be able to accommodate that? How should we approach that arrangement? MR. ADAMS: I think—let us know what you're looking for, right. I think that information and what your requests are, what your ideas are, would be directly in line with the idea developing these concepts. I should say I'm going to be a little parochial. I understand that we love ASU (Arizona State University) and all the work that they do, but this is with the University of Hawaii at Hilo. And we want to encourage our local university to do as much of the work that we can as we build that organization and the connections on the island. Page 8 FC -14 July 6, 2021 MS. KIMBALL: Fair enough. No intention to diss—our Vulcans. So, thank you. I yield, Chair. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Ms. Kimball. Anyone else? Okay, seeing none, thank you, Mr. Adams. Appreciate it. MR. ADAMS: Thank you. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And with that, we have a motion on the floor, all in favor? Vote on Res. 153-21: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 153-21 was (Approved) carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder – 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And let's go right to Resolution 154, please. Res. 154-21: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF A ONE -METER DIVING STAND AND DIVING BOARD TO THE COUNTY OF HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION The donation from the Hawaii HI -Diving Friends, valued at $14,750 would be located at the Charles "Sparky" Kawamoto Swim Stadium. Reference: Comm. 304 Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R) Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to recommend adoption of Res. 154-21. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, discussion on the item. We do have the Director and Deputy of Parks and Rec here today. Okay, Moe, do you want to mention anything about the donation? Not at this time? It's for you. That is fine, okay. Okay, seeingoh, Ms. Lee Loy, did you want to add anything? Page 9 FC -14 July 6, 2021 MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. I mean Sparky Kawamoto has some needs, and so I really appreciate, Moe, for you reaching out and making it happen for us. Yeah, just thank you so much. I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Okay, no further discussion being seen. I want to mahalo the Parks and Rec Department for making this happen as well as the group that's doing it, HI -Dive Hawaii. And mahalo for making this happen. I remember this coming up a couple years ago, so I'm glad to see this is being taken care of. Okay, so all in favor? Vote on Res. 154-21: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 154-21 was (Approved) carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, Mr. Clerk, Resolution 155, please. Res. 155-21: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF AN `ALALA (HAWAIIAN CROW) ENCLOSURE TO THE COUNTY OF HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION The donation from the Friends of Pana`ewa Zoo, valued at $143,409.04 would be located at the Pana`ewa Zoo. Reference: Comm. 305 Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R) Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to recommend adoption of Res. 155-21. Seconded by Mr. Richards. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Again Council Members, any discussion? And the Director and Deputy Director are here. Ms. Lee Loy, go ahead. MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. You know, the zoo is in the district. There's so many fantastic things going on over there, with the ADA (American with Disabilities Act) upgrades and now this. So just really mahalo Friends of the Zoo for really being such a great community partner for a gem in Pana`ewa. Thank you, Chair. I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mahalo, Ms. Lee Loy. And Director, Deputy, do you want to add anything? Page 10 FC -14 July 6, 2021 (Note: At this time, Parks and Recreation Director Maurice Messina came forward to address the members of the Committee. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Mr. Messina, nice to have you here today. Please introduce yourself for the record. MR. MESSINA: Good afternoon. Maurice Messina, Director of Parks and Recreation. Same thing, I just want to mahalo the Friends of the Zoo for this exhibit. It's going to be the only one in the world. So when we open up the zoo on July 19, this is going to be, I believe, along with the tiger, one of the most visited exhibits. And also, mahalo the San Diego Zoo for helping to make this happen. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Director. And then I was reading through the background on this, it looks like this is for two non -breeding male crows. Is there any thought to—or can `alala be bred in captivity, or no? To increase our population on island? MR. MESSINA: So if memory serves me correctly, I think in 2002 they were declared extinct in the wild. And I believe they've gotten up to around 120 `alalas in the world right now. The San Diego Zoo has been part of the the part of their program is that they go and they harvest the eggs, which allows the `alala to do another laying, basically doubling them up. I don't knowI believe they successfully bred a couple, if I remember reading that correctly. But yeah, so they've been, I think since 2017, have been working to reintroduce them into the wild. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yes, I remember too. So we're just going do two non -breeding males then, and leave it at that. MR. MESSINA: Yes, and it's two side-by-side exhibits in the same structure. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you. Sorry, Mr. Richards, go ahead. MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. I actually think this is really appropriate. Because if I recall correctly, the last place the `alala existed was in South Kona. And they were doing the captive breeding program on Maui at Olinda, at that facility. The reintroduction initially didn't work, but they reintroduced them back in South Kona and it is starting to catch traction. Yeah, the fact that this exhibit is going to be on this island, because this is where the last place they were in the wild, and now we're introducing them back into the wild. So, it's all very appropriate, which plays back into the conversation about endangered species and Page 11 FC -14 Vote on Res. 155-21 (Approved) July 6, 2021 invasive species, like what we talked about earlier. So right on, this is a great thing. Thanks, Chair. I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Mr. Richards. Council Members, any further discussion today? Okay, appreciate you being here, Director. MR. MESSINA: So I just want to invite everyone to our reopening on July 19. This is the number one zoo in the State, out of two. But still the number one. So thank you. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: July 19, what is the time of opening? So that people who wanted to—or listening today. MS. MESSINA: 10:00 a.m. And the new hours is going to be 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. And when you go to the zoo and you seethe over $10 million that were put into the zoo for this ADA project, you're going to see a whole new facility, and it will really blow your mind. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Director. Appreciate it. Okay, Council Members, without any further discussion, mahalo for your time today, Director and Deputy. I look forward to being there on July 19, at 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Clerk, let's go back to Resolution 142. MR. BROWN: Excuse me, Chair, could you take the vote, please? CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, yeah. So all in favor of forwarding Resolution 155-21 to Council with a favorable recommendation say "aye." The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 155-21 was carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder – 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And thank you for catching that mistake. MR. BROWN: Thank you, Chair. Page 12 FC -14 Return to Order of Business: Res. 142-21 July 6, 2021 CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And let's circle back now to Resolution 142-21. The Chair directed the Committee to return to the order of business. (Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order) FORMS A WORKING GROUP TO DEVELOP A NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF COUNTY ASSETS AND TO URGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO UTILIZE THIS ASSESSMENT TO TRANSFORM THE DEVELOPMENT AND REPORTING OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND CAPITAL PROGRAM AS OUTLINED IN ARTICLE X, SECTION 10-6, OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CHARTER Council Members Ashley Kierkiewicz and Susan Lee Loy would Co -Chair the Working Group, which would include representatives from the Department of Finance, Planning Department, Department of Public Works, Office of the Corporation Counsel, and the Office of the Mayor. Reference: Comm. 280 Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy and Ms. Kierkiewicz Postponed: June 15, 2021 (Note: There is a motion by Ms. Lee Loy, seconded by Mr. Richards to recommend adoption of Res. 142-21.) CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mahalo, Mr. Clerk. So let's open discussion today. Ms. Kierkiewicz, go ahead. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. I'm going to be asking for another postponement, until our next meeting, July 16''. Director Sako was not able to attend our last committee meeting, so she's catching up on the archived video so she can hear all of the mana`o that was presented by this body. I have, with Sue, worked on identifying the scope of work that we have floated to Corporation Counsel, and have had discussion with other departments that we identified would be critical to the working group effort, including Environmental Management, Parks and Recreation, and IT (Information of Technology). All of this is happening over email. And to ensure that things don't get lost in translation, the soonest we could all kind of get together was Friday. So just asking for a little bit more time, so we can make sure everybody that we're asking to be at the table is on the same page. That we come before you at the next committee meeting with a very clearly defined scope of work, and everybody understands what the deliverables are going to be. Thank you Happy to answer any questions. Page 13 FC -14 July 6, 2021 CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Ms. Lee Loy. MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. As Ms. Kierkiewicz mentioned, we've been working with Corporation Counsel, and as she said, Deanna. But I do want to highlight the conversation that we had in Public Works, around our fuel tax. I think it gives a fantastic highlight as to why there's so many pieces, whether it's funding, whether it's timing on the development of these projects. We're all looking for a way to communicate to our constituency how things are getting prioritized. Because the number one question I keep getting is, where is our taxes going? And it's my hope that, you know, as we develop some of these curated lists so that every Council Member can use it, they can use it as a way to communicate back to their constituency; you know, how government is actually working or maybe not working, and even offer better solutions, leverage our social capital, look at nonprofit organizations to fill the gap. This was a goal that I've been talking about for two years now, when we talk about budgeting for outcomes. So I'm going to be supporting the postponement because we have a few people that's going to catch up, and I know Deanna will catch up really quick. But I think this is a great opportunity for just more feedback from the rest of my colleagues here on the dais. So, I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mahalo, Ms. Lee Loy. Any further discussion? Ms. Kimball, go ahead. MS. KIMBALL: Yeah, I appreciate you guys taking the time to get mana`o from everybody involved. And just want to reiterate the points that were renumerating after our discussion this morning again, about how critically important it is to understand how decision-making has happened, and you know, not to evaluate it with any sort of critical eye, but to really understand what some of the key decision-making criteria are. You know, thinking about road repaving and lighter data, you know, at the end of the day it may come down to simply, "Oh, we've matching funds for that," or some other criteria that isn't quantitative. And so I hope that you will be including some component of decision analysis in the scope of work for this group. I know Council Member Inaba also expressed an interest in participating in some way, and so I'm not sure if you guys are also considering changing this from a working group to an ad hoc, which I think might be useful as well. But just wanted to put that out there. Thanks for putting this forward, to both of you. I yield, Chair. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Ms. Kimball. Anyone else? Page 14 FC -14 Vote on Motion to Postpone: (Approved) BILLS FOR ORDINANCES: July 6, 2021 MS. LEE LOY: Chair? CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: A motion, please. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, motion to postpone Resolution 142-21 to July 16. MS. LEE LOY: Second. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, so we have a motion on the floor to postpone. MR. BROWN: I'm so sorry to interject. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Go ahead, Mr. Brown. MR. BROWN: By my calendar, the next committee meeting is Tuesday, July 20, in Kona. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Nice catch. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Sorry about that. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Let's redo the motion then. MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Thank, Mr. Clerk. Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to postpone Res. 142-21 to July 20, 2021. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy and carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Mr. Clerk. And let's move on to Bill 45 when you're ready, sir. The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, Bills for Ordinances.. Page 15 FC -14 July 6, 2021 Bill 45: AMENDS CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 42 OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO THE PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, AND NATURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND MAINTENANCE FUND Aligns the language in this section of the Code with Charter amendments approved by voters during the 2020 General Election by redirecting the administration and management of the Maintenance Fund from the Department of Parks and Recreation to the Department of Finance, and removing the requirement that the commission's composition not be made up of more than a bare majority of any particular political parry. Reference: Comm. 294 Intr. by: Ms. David Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to recommend passage of Bill 45 on first reading. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Ms. David, would you like start off for us? You know what's funny, you and I can't talk at the same time, so I'm going to take my light off and you go ahead. MS. DAVID: Thank you. That's what was wrong, because I press it I would turn you off. But okay, here's—as Deputy Clerk mentioned, this is like a housekeeping matter, Mr. Chair, and I think you covered it pretty well as far as why we're doing this. And I think Ms. Sako is here, if we have any questions. This is basically to conform with the Charter amendments that the voters ratified. Before I go and see if anyone else has comments, I just really want to thank County Clerk Jon and you Deputy, and also Dennis Kauka from LRB (Legislative Research Branch). They're very, very sharp in getting us to the point where we conform to whatever we need to correct in our Charter and in our Code, to be consistent. So I really want to express my mahalo to them. I'm just the introducer, but they're the ones that did all the heavy work on this one, so thank you. And if Director Sako has anything to add—other than that, I really ask that you folks support this housekeeping matter. Thank you. I yield, Chair. Mahalo. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Ms. David, and I appreciate you bringing this forward. Council, any discussion? Ms. Lee Loy, go ahead. MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Ms. David, for putting this forward. I just had a question, maybe for Deanna. Page 16 FC -14 July 6, 2021 (Note: At this time, Finance Director Deanna Sako came forward to address the members of the Committee.) MS. LEE LOY: I know oftentimes when we move, you know, one function from one department to the other, there's often administrative rules or a process, right? Does the Finance Department have that or are we just going to shift everything over and the way we did it with Parks is the same way Finance will be doing it? MS. SAKO: It will be similar. But we haven't finished that transition yet. I think when we brought the last recommendations forward from Parks and Rec, they mentioned they have one more year's worth of grant applications to review. So they'll be bringing that forward and then we'll take it over from there. And we will have staff. But we'll primarily be working through the PONC Commission (Public Access, Open Space, and Natural Resources Preservation Commission) to review the grants. MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to the next go around of funding. MS. SAKO: Yeah. MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Any further comments, questions by the Council? Mr. Inaba, go ahead. MR. INABA: I just have a question regards to Subsection(c). With regards to the accounting reporting and financial statements, is that just not going to be done anymore for? I mean I know it's according to what the voters decided in the election, but— MS. ut MS. SAKO: So I think they're trying to make it match. But also now that there's no longer two departments, everything falls under Finance. So I think they wouldI think it does say that up earlier in Subsection(b), that the—will be administered and managed by the Department of Finance. And so we'll continue to have that information on our website as we do now. MR. INABA: Good, thank you. That's all I have, Chair. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Mr. Inaba. Okay, seeing no further discussion, Ms. David, do you have any further comment? MS. DAVID: No thank you, Chair. Mahalo. Page 17 FC -14 July 6, 2021 CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you, Deanna, for your time today. And then I think we have one more bill for you. But for the time being, we have a motion on the floor to forward Bill 45 to Council with a favorable recommendation, all in favor? Vote on Bill 45: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 45 on (Approved) first reading was carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i- Kleinfelder – 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And to our next order of business, Bill 47. Bill 47: REPEALS CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 41 OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO THE DISASTER AND EMERGENCY FUND Repeals this section of the Code, which became obsolete upon establishment of Hawaii County Charter Section 10-17 approved by voters during the 2020 General Election. Reference: Comm. 297 Intr. by: Ms. David Motion to Approve: Ms. David moved to recommend passage of Bill 47 on first reading. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy. MS. DAVID: Yes, and I think Mr. Brown said it quite clearly why this is being done. And also the only—I understand the only substantive difference identified was the Code provided Council with the ability to dissolve the fund, but that is like they're no longer applicable now that the funds are inserted with precedence in the Charter. So I think this is self-explanatory and I just ask for your support. And thank the Clerk's Office and LRB again, mahalo. I yield. CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mahalo, Ms. David. Any discussion, Council? Okay, seeing none. Thank you, Ms. David, for bringing this forward, of course with the help of our Clerk's Office and staff, and Mr. Henricks and Mr. Brown, and Ms. Sako. And with no further discussion, we have a motion on the floor to forward Bill 47 to Council with a favorable recommendation, all in favor? Page 18 FC -14 July 6, 2021 Vote on Bill 47: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 47 on (Approvedfirst reading was carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i- Kleinfelder — 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And that brings us to the end of our agenda. Can I have a motion? ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 2:15 p.m. Ms. Lee Loy moved to adjourn MENT: the meeting. Seconded by Mr. Inaba and carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Richards, Villegas, and Chair Kdneali`i- Kleinfelder — 9. Noes: None. Absent: None. Excused: None. CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mr. Clerk, you have nine members in favor of adjourning at 2:15 today. We are adjourned. Approved: Mr. Matt Kaneali`Kleinfelder, Finance Committe- MK/na it 'q/ -7'V r Z4 (Date) Page 19