HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN PC 2022/08/16 2020-2022 Committee on Planning
28th Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawai i
August 16, 2022
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Planning was called to order at
ORDER: 10:24 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Kailua-Kona, by Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz,
Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Chair
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Vice Chair
Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Maile Medeiros David, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member
Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Member (came in later)
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member
Absent& Excused: Mr. Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when
called by the Chair:
Cory Harden: Bill 194 (Comm. 898), comment.
Chuck Flaherty: Bill 194 (Comm. 898), comment.
Dwight Vicente: Bill 194 (Comm. 898),
Bill 196 (Comm. 913),
Bill 198 (Comm. 919),
Bill 199 (Comm. 922); and
Comm. 922.1, comment.
Mark Van Pernis: Bill 194 (Comm. 898), comment.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Mr. Clerk, if we could please move to Bills for
Ordinances. I'd like to start with Bill 196.
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BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no object from the Council Members, the
of Business: following items were taken out of order
Bill 196: REPEALS ORDINANCE NO. 17-7, WHICH AMENDS SECTION 25-8-33
(CITY OF HILO ZONE MAP), ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING CODE) OF
THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), BY
CHANGING THE DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION FROM SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL— 10,000 SQUARE FEET (RS-10) TO NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL— 10,000 SQUARE FEET (CN-10) AT WAIAKEA, SOUTH
HILO, HAWAII, COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY: 2-2-040:004
(Planning Director Initiated) (Area: Approx. 1.000 acre)
The Windward Planning Commission forwards its favorable recommendation to
revert the zoning from Neighborhood Commercial to its original designation of
Single-Family Residential at the request of the landowner. The property is located
along the east(makai) side of Kilauea Avenue, approximately 180 feet north of its
intersection with East Kahaopea Street.
Reference: Comm. 913
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to recommend passage of Bill 196
on first reading. Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Since this is Planning Director initiated, Director Kern,
could you please lead the discussion here? And I also want to note the presence
of the property owners. I believe the Oshiro's are with you in Hilo, should my
colleagues have any questions for them. Great, thank you. Director Kern, you
have the floor.
(Note: At this time, Planning Director Zendo Kern came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KERN: Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the Committee. I
appreciate the opportunity to be here. Zendo Kern, Planning Director. You are
correct. The applicants, or the landowners I should say, are here in Hilo. This is
a relatively, very straight-forward request from CN (Neighborhood Commercial)
to Residential. The landowners had planned to do something commercial. Time
went on that they didn't. So it makes sense for them to keep the property in the
Single-Family Residential zoning, which is consistent with the settlement pattern
in the area as well. So, any questions, I'm happy to answer.
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CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Director. Any questions or comments?
Mr. Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you, real quick. Director Kern, I know it's Director
initiated. Is this something that the applicants come to the department and request
you to initiate, or is this something that you just see on the books and contact
them if they didn't meet the conditions of approval in time?
MR. KERN: They came in and checked on the ordinance to see what
opportunities there were. And because the ordnance time conditions were stale,
they had either the opportunity to come back through and request a time extension
to keep it in CN through this process or to revert it back to the RS (Residential)
zoning. And based on the discussion, it make more sense for them to do RS. So
they requested that we initiate that process.
MR. INABA: Thank you so much, Chair. That's all I have.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Anyone else? Okay, we have a motion on
the floor to send Bill 196 to the Council with a positive recommendation. All in
favor,please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 196: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 196 on first
(Approved) reading was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Inaba,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kierkiewicz—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Richards — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Mr. Clerk, please move on to Bill 198.
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Bill 198: AMENDS SECTION 25-8-32 (SOUTH HILO ZONE MAP), ARTICLE 8,
CHAPTER 25 (ZONING) OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016
EDITION, AS AMENDED), BY CHANGING THE DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION FROM AGRICULTURAL—3 ACRES (A-3a) TO SINGLE-
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL— 15,000 SQUARE FEET (RS-15) AT AINAOLA,
SOUTH HILO, HAWAII, COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY: 2-4-039:025
(Applicant: RJL, LLC) (Area: Approx. 13.838 acres)
The Windward Planning Commission forwards its favorable recommendation for
this change of zone, which would allow the applicant to apply for a subdivision of
33 lots to be sold on the open market. The property is located at the southwest
corner of the Haihai Street and Ainaola Drive intersection.
Reference: Comm. 919
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kimball moved to recommend passage of Bill 198
on first reading. Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: I believe we have the applicant, Laurie Higashi and the
representative for the applicant, Mr. Daryn Arai, in Hilo Chambers. I just want to
disclose for the record, that I'm a member of the Zonta Club of Hilo, and that is
how I know Ms. Higashi. Folks, if you could do me a favor and provide an
overview of the request that is to be considered by the Planning Committee today.
(Note: At this time, Planning Consultant Daryn Arai and representative
for the applicant Laurie Higashi came forward to address the members of
the Committee.)
MR. ARAI: Good morning, Chair Kierkiewicz and Members of the Committee.
My name is Daryn Arai. I'm a Land Use Planning Consultant assisting the
applicant RJL, LLC, who is represented here by Laurie Higashi, to my right.
The request before you today represents a proper progression the residential land
use pattern within this particular section of Hilo. We appreciate the favorable
recommendations by both the Planning Director and the Windward Planning
Commission, as well as the proposed conditions of approval as recommended.
As both the Planning Director and the Windward Planning Commission found, it
is a proper land use pattern in this particular section of Hilo. It's consistent with
both the General Plan and the State Land Use Law, which designates this area for
Urban types of uses, consistent with the proposed 33-lot residential subdivision.
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Both the Director and the Commission found that the property is serviced by
adequate infrastructure, such as roads, water; and the applicant will be providing
private wastewater systems via individual septic systems to service each lot. So
with that, we stand ready to answer any questions that you may have.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Questions, comments from my colleagues?
Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. Thank you for being here
today, Mr. Arai and for the representatives for the Higashi's. I'm looking for a
subdivision plan within the folder. Is there one? Has one been submitted to us?
MR. ARAI: I should note that it's within the application itself. It's identified as
Figure 3, Proposed Subdivision Plan. And that was attached to the Planning
Director's Background Report.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And we can see that it's been slated for
33 lots, or parcels. And I do believe that it fits within the general scope of the
area and the surrounding parcels. And maybe I'm not seeing it, but I don't see a
subdivision plan. Chair, have you seen one located in the plan?
MR. ARAI: If you could refer to Page 22, as part of the record that was
transmitted to Council?
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, I'm going to yield for now. I'm
going to take a look at it.
MR. KERN: Just going to jump in real quick. Zendo Kern, Planning Director.
So you folks received the background report as well as the recommendation. It
would be on Page 22 of the background report, which goes to the County's report
and then into the applicant's report. It would be Figure 3, Proposed Subdivision
Plan.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you, Mr. Kern. Give me one
second. I yield for now.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, anyone else? Mr. Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you, Chair. Just one question. I see that all of the roads are
going to be built to dedicable standards, except for the one cul-de-sac. What is
the reason for that?
MR. ARAI: The reason for the private cul-de-sac versus it being all dedicable
roads?
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MR. INABA: Yes.
MR. ARAI: I personally didn't design the subdivision. Maybe Ms. Higashi can
speak to it. But, in many instances—it is an awkwardly configured property. So,
it's a matter of being able to cite the lots appropriately. And if it results in a need
for a smaller and narrower private road, that is an opportunity that is provided by
the Subdivision Code.
MR. INABA: Mr. Arai, was that your answer to this property, or what happens at
other properties?
MR. ARAI: Because it's expressed in the Subdivision Code, it can be utilized by
any project. And I should note that, if I remember correctly, a private cul-de-sac
such as this can serve no more than six lots, if I remember correctly.
MR. INABA: For everyone else, this is Condition F in the bill. So, I'll ask the
question again, what is the reason in this case for having one cul-de-sac be
privately maintained?
MS. HIGASHI: I believe it's because if the road was built to the County's
standard, it would make the lots too small for the 15,000 square-foot minimum,
you know, to fit the zoning.
MR. INABA: Okay, thank you. And Mr. Arai, how many lots will be fronting or
utilizing this cul-de-sac?
MR. ARAI: No more than six. And I should note,that when a subdivision is laid
out, you have to look at the number of lots being serviced by that particular road
and whether a full dedicable standard road 50-feet wide with roughly 32 feet of
pavement is necessary. And in this particular case, because it only serves six lots,
a smaller narrower private road is appropriate.
MR. INABA: Thank you for the answer. Just wanted to make sure, because we
have some issues here in Kona with privately-maintained roads. But, thank you,
Ms. Higashi, for the explanation. Appreciate it. Chair, I yield.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Anyone else here in Kona? Ms. Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Yeah, Chair, I'll just disclose, I also know Ms. Higashi as well
through Zonta Club, but it will not affect my ability to make a decision on this.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. Okay, I found the map.
Thank you very much, Mr. Arai, Mr. Kern, and Ms. Higashi. I was looking at it.
I wanted to see where everyone was entering and exiting. And I can see through
the report that noticed this is how just like you state it. That's better. Anybody
entering from Ainaola?
MR. ARAI: Excuse me, this is Daryn. When you say entering, you mean, if
there will be any direct driveway entrances onto Ainaola?
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Correct.
MR. ARAI: No. That will be prohibited, and it's also within (inaudible).
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Folks, hang on one second. I apologize, but I have been
getting notifications that we've lost our live feed. Could we take a recess to just
check up on that to make sure that the live stream is, in fact, happening? Thank
you. We're in recess.
Recess: At 10:53 a.m., the Chair called for a recess.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 10:56 a.m.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. I'm taking us out of recess and putting us
back into session. The time is 10:56 a.m. Mr. Arai, if you could restart and
provide us your response to Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder's question. Thank you.
MR. ARAI: Thank you, Chair. There will be no direct driveway access to any
individual lot onto both Haihai and Ainaola.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you for that. Where are folks
in the proposed subdivision going to be moving through then, and back to a main
roadway?
MR. ARAI: They will have to go through both the new Kikaha Street connection
onto Haihai and the extension of Ho`olala Street onto Ainaola. So basically,
there'll be only two approaches directly onto those two County roadway systems.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, and has there been aoh, go ahead.
MR. ARAI: I'm sorry. I should note that this proposed subdivision will extend
Ho`olala from two existing subdivisions located mauka, or to the west of this
project site. So,there will be enhanced interconnectivity between a number of
subdivisions.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you for that. Has there been
the appropriate Traffic Impact Statements done, or assessments done?
MR. ARAI: No traffic study was done. The proposed 33-lot subdivision will not
trigger the concurrency requirements for this particular project.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Is there any park area that's been
designated within the subdivision?
MR. ARAI: No parks are contemplated within this project.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Does the requirement to have park space not
apply in this situation, Mr. Kern or Mr. Arai?
MR. KERN: Zendo Kern, Planning Director. That is correct. There is no trigger
for a park requirement.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And why is that again?
MR. KERN: Due to the Code,the size of the project.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. And then, quickly looking over some
of the Planning Commission notes, it looks like the Department of Public Works
was wanting to see improvements along the roadways for both Ainaola Drive and
looks like maybe sidewalks within the community. But the applicant did not
agree on the basis of that decision. Is that true?
MR. ARAI: I don't recall a recommendation for sidewalks. However, there was
a recommendation by Public Works to improve the right-of-way along Ainaola
Street. And that, we did speak directly to, and we felt that it was not warranted.
Because if you look at Figure 3, Proposed Subdivision Layout,there's an
extensive strip of State-owned lands between the project site and Ainaola Street.
So any improvement would not be functional in our point, because it wouldn't
provide for an improvement along the entire right-of-way of Ainaola. It would
just be a very small segment.
And I should note that there's also an exhibit within your record. It was a
response by the applicant, and we provided an exhibit that showed the location of
an existing concrete culvert. So in order to extend the paved shoulders, it would
require reconstruction of that existing culvert as well.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, okay. I think that's a fair statement.
Within the subdivision itself, what is the thought behind making sure people can
utilize the roadways for bikes and other things, kind of along the Complete Streets
thinking.
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MR. ARAI: There is no bike lane that is anticipated within this subdivision.
However, because the shoulders will be paved to its full extent, the paved
shoulders could provide that walking and biking opportunities along the interior
subdivision roadways.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. I mean, I think at this point, you guys
have come to know me, and I do like to see that we're making sure that our
communities can utilize other sources or transportation. Maybe just making sure
our kids can ride bikes along some of those roadways and be safe, yeah? Okay, I
see the heads nodding, good.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, that was the majority of my
questions, and I do appreciate the answers given and your time being here today.
Thank you.
MR. ARAI: Our pleasure.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. I yield, Chair.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Anyone else? Okay, Mr. Arai and
Ms. Higashi,just one question for you. Noting here your intentions to create the
33 lots, but one of the conditions of approval here allows for you folks to exercise
the right to assign 16 ADU's (Accessory Dwelling Units). And so, is that
something that you folks are going to pursue? I just want the option to in the
events of—just recognizing the care and capacity of the area to increase density,
but I was just curious to know if you guys are going to exercise that right.
MS. HIGASHI: Appreciate the opportunity and still considering it. I think it's a
great opportunity to provide more density, which we need units. So haven't
decided completely, but appreciate the chance to be able to do that.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. I don't have any other questions. We have a
motion on the floor to forward Bill 198 to Council with a favorable
recommendation. All in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 198: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 198 on first
(Approved) reading was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members David, Inaba,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kierkiewicz–7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Chung and Richards –2.
Excused: None.
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MR. ARAI: Thank you very much, much appreciated. Thank you all.
MS. HIGASHI: Thank you.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you for being here. Mr. Clerk, if we could please
take up Bill 199?
Bill 199: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 17-24, WHICH AMENDED ORDINANCE NO.
12-111, WHICH AMENDED ORDINANCE NO. 99-116, WHICH AMENDED
ORDINANCE NO. 96-159, WHICH AMENDED SECTION 25-8-33 (CITY
OF HILO ZONE MAP), ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING CODE) OF
THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED)
(FORMERLY REFERRED TO AS SECTION 25-114, CITY OF HILO ZONE
MAP, ARTICLE 3, CHAPTER 25, ZONING CODE), BY CHANGING THE
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION FROM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL—
10,000 SQUARE FEET (RS-10) TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL—7,500
SQUARE FEET (CN-7.5) AT WAIAKEA, SOUTH HILO, HAWAII, COVERED
BY TAX MAP KEYS: 2-2-044:031, 032, 035, AND 037
(Applicant: Hilo Senior Investments, LLC—formerly Island Heritage Ventures, LLC)
(Area: Approx. 7.402 acres)
The Windward Planning Commission forwards its favorable recommendation for
this request for a five-year time extension to Condition C (Time to Secure Final
Subdivision Approval). The applicant plans to develop an assisted living facility
and a commercial/retail building. The property is located on the southeast side of
the intersection of Kanoelehua Avenue and East Kahaopea Street.
Reference: Comm. 922
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz (B/R)
and
Comm. 922.1: From Planning Director Zendo Kern, dated August 9, 2022,transmitting the
transcripts from the Windward Planning Commission's July 7, 2022, meeting.
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to recommend passage of Bill 199
on first reading. Seconded by Ms. Kimball.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: I believe we have representatives for the applicant
joining us in the Hilo Chambers, Jill Raznov and Mr. John DeWald. If you could
please introduce yourselves for the record and provide the Committee with an
overview of your request? Oh, Mr. DeWald is actually joining us via Zoom.
Aloha. Good morning. Thanks for joining us. You both have the floor.
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(Note: At this time, Representative for the Applicant Jill Dana Raznov,
Esq. and landowner John DeWald came forward to address the members
of the Committee.)
MR. DEWALD: Good morning. My name is John DeWald, I'm the owner of the
property and the developer. And, we are excited to finally get moving forward
with this project. I'll have Jill go ahead and do the introduction and updates, but
I'll be available for questions. I apologize for not being there in person, but I
wasn't able to make travel arrangements quick enough. Thank you.
MS. RAZNOV: Thank you, John. Hi, good morning, Chair and members of the
Committee. Thank you so much for this opportunity to present today before you
on this bill. My name is Jill Raznov. I am the applicant's attorney and planner.
And as you know, as you met, Mr. DeWald is here. Mr. DeWald represents and
is the principal of the applicant.
So we're here today to request a time extension on the ordinance to secure Final
Subdivision Approval. And I wanted to thank the Planning Director and his staff
for forwarding a favorable recommendation on the request to the Windward
Planning Commission, and the Planning Commission for also approving that
request and forwarding a favorable recommendation to this Committee.
A little background for the Committee. The ordinance was originally approved
and passed in 1996 to change the Residential Zoning on the subject property from
Residential to what it is now, which is Neighborhood Commercial. That request
was not by Mr. DeWald or any affiliated entity. It was an unaffiliated entity, and
I believe their intention was to develop the property for solely Commercial
means.
The property is a very challenging property and the predecessors were unable, for
various reasons to get their development off the ground. Mr. DeWald's entity
came in about 2015 and purchased the property and began right away to do
exploration as far as whether or not they could achieve their current project.
The project is a 120-bed assisted living facility with a related commercial
development, which is going to be offices and retail. But the main focus is the
120-bed assisted living facility. And as the Committee Members might know, we
don't have an assisted living facility on this side of the Island. We have one on
the entire Island, which is in Kona.
And so, this is really a feel-good project. This is such a needed development here.
It's also going to be in a great location, which is right on the entrance corner of
Kanoelehua, entering into Hilo from Puna and Volcano. Right across from the
Puainako Center, kitty-corner to the Baskin-Robbins.
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That property has sat undeveloped for many years with overgrown invasive
species. It was formerly the Hiro's Nursery in the 60's. And Mrs. Hiro did some
subdivision, which created the current parcels, as you see them today. It hasn't
operated as a nursery in many, many years. And it sat undeveloped for a very
long time.
So, we're really hoping that the Committee approves the request for extension.
Since Mr. DeWald and his entity has owned the property, they've done a
substantial amount of work to develop and to see this project through to the end.
They've had a soil report done; they've received a parking variance approval;
they've received a tentative subdivision plan approval.
They've entered into a Memorandum of Agreement with owner of one of the
parcels to relocate an easement in exchange for some valuable consideration.
That easement is going to become part of the entranceway to the entire project,
which is going to be moved up east on Kahaopea. So the property is at the corner
or Kahaopea and Kanoelehua on the east side of the highway.
They've also entered into a Right-of-Entry Agreement with owners of other
neighboring parcels to allow the applicant to conduct necessary improvements for
drainage on the property. They've received CLOMR approval, which is a
Conditional Letter of Map Revision from FEMA (Federal Emergency
Management Agency) to conduct the drainage.
So the property has a flood zone, so there's a lot of drainage; there's a lot of
grading that needs to be done. And so, we did receive the CLOMR from FEMA.
That was back in 2018. They deregistered the property from Land Court and also
received master plan approval recently from the Planning Director, which
includes the landscaping plan.
The reason for the request is simply because of the delays that were unforeseen
right after the current applicant requested extension of the original ordinance after
he bought the property and got a Use Permit for the current use, which is the
120-bed assisted living facility.
Then we had the 2018 lava flow, which of course, focused everyone's attention
on other emergencies, you know,that emergency. And then, thereafter we had
the pandemic. And so, those two unforeseen massive emergency events just
really hindered the development in major ways. Investors, you know, weren't
ready to invest at that time. And then, the agencies that were tasked with
reviewing and approving the plans were focused on other matters.
So right now, as it is, we have our revised traffic improvement plans that were
sent to the Department of Transportation on January of this year, and they are
under review. We've been going back and forth with the Department of
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Transportation. The hurdle is that Kanoelehua is a State highway, and Kahaopea
is a County highway. And so,just to have agreements with regard to the
alignment, the striping, the lighting. This has just been a little bit of a hurdle.
And even though we had tentative agreements with the various agencies, none of
that became formal approvals.
We also have revised construction plans regarding the infrastructure
improvements with DPW (Department of Public Works) for review. And those
were sent in January.
And so the applicant stands ready, and able, and willing to complete the project
within the five-year timeframe that we are requesting. And we would simply
respectfully that the Committee approve that five-year extension to allow the
applicant to finish. And we're available for any questions you have. And thank
you so much.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Jill, for that very detailed presentation, and
history, and progress report for this particular project. Going to see if my
colleagues have any questions or comments for the applicant and/or their
representative. Okay, seeing none here in Kona, we have a motion on the floor to
forward Bill 199 to the Council with a positive recommendation. All in favor,
please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 199: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 199 on first
(Approved) reading was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members David, Inaba,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kierkiewicz—7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Chung and Richards —2.
Excused: None.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you very much folks.
MR. DEWALD: Thank you for your time.
MS. RAZNOV: Thank you so very much for your time.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, let's go back to the top of the agenda please, for
Bill 194. Thank you.
Return to Order The Chair directed the Committee to return to the order of business.
of Business:
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Statements from The Chair called Elizabeth Dunn, who registered to speak regarding
the Public on Bill 194 (Comm. 898) and came forward when called.
Bill 194:
Bill 194: AMENDS CHAPTER 25 ARTICLE 2, DIVISION 4, SECTION 25-2-44, OF THE
HAWAI I COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATED
TO CONDITIONS ON CHANGE OF ZONE
Clarifies that the Planning Director may not extend the time allowed to satisfy
conditions within a change of zone ordinance unless specifically authorized by the
County Council.
Reference: Comm. 898
Intr. by: Mr. Inaba
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage of Bill 194
on first reading. Seconded by Ms. David.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Mr. Inaba, this is your pill.
MR. INABA: Thank you. Kind of appropriate on a day when we're seeing
some rezoning bills. So, it's a very simple measure, and it just ensures that
when the County Council is the body that grants changes of zones, anytime
there needs to be an extension when conditions aren't met, the Council would
be the one to grant those extensions and also make any needed changes or
alterations at that time, seeing that infrastructure needs and conditions may be
changing over the course of whatever time was originally allotted.
So, as you know, this bill will, perhaps answering Ms. Dunn's question, the next
step is that this bill will be forwarded like Council Member Kimball's EV
(Electric Vehicle) to both the Planning Director and the Planning Commissions
for their input. Yeah,just very clear, making sure that the Council who grants
the authority originally would be the one to grant an extension if that is needed.
And happy to take any questions. Perhaps, actually if Director Kern or Deputy
Director Darrow want to chime in, they can go ahead now.
(Note: At this time, Planning Director Zendo Kern and Deputy Planning
Director Jeff Darrow came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MR. KERN: Thank you. Zendo Kern, Planning Director. Thank you for the
opportunity to talk story about this one. So, I'm neutral on this, but I do want to
just clarify something, because I feel that there's a fair amount of
misinformation. I'm hearing things that aren't really ringing true. And I'm
seeing certain things that actually, again, kind of underscore that.
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So, the process of a time extension is built in to the ordinance which is approved
by Council. The Planning Director does not have the authority to grant time
extensions beyond that. And the Planning Directors haven't done that, to my
knowledge. And I'll turn it over to Deputy Director Darrow here in a minute,
who's got more history with the Department internally to speak to that.
So, this practice has been in place, and it's concerning when certain
conversations are out there, saying that basically the Planning Director grants
time extensions at will. And that's simply not the case. You just saw the last
application that was in here. They were requesting a time extension. As such,
they had to come through the Council.
Now, if it's built in the ordinance that says, the Director"may" grant a one-time
time extension for those various reasons, then that is the Council authorizing the
Director to do that for those reasons, and that has been the practice. So again,
I'm neutral on the bill. I feel it's very much in alignment with the current
practice that has been going on. And happy to continue in that fashion. But I
think it's important for the public to know that this has been the case. I'd like to
turn it over to Deputy Director Darrow so he can add.
MR. DARROW: Aloha, Jeff Darrow with the Planning Department. Thank you
for the opportunity to be able to speak on this matter. I completely agree with
Director Kern. This has been the process as long as I've been with the Planning
Department. We looked back at some old rezoning ordinances, and they had the
similar condition for the Administrative time extension within the ordinance, that
again, is granted by Council.
The Planning Director prepares these ordinances as part of his responsibilities
under the Council. He prepares the conditions; he provides a recommendation to
the Commission, who then in turn provides a recommendation to the Council,
who ultimately approves the change of zone or the amendments.
This particular language that's being proposed in the bill is, again we're trying to
understand if there's any difference, but we,the Planning Director and previous
Planning Directors have not had the authority unless that authority to grant
Administrative time extension was given to them through the condition of the
ordinance approved by the Council.
You know, as Director Kern had mentioned, there's been a lot of talk. And some
of it is difficult to understand where someone, or an article, says that the
Directors have granted five-, 10-, 15-, 25-year time extensions. That's just not
true. The ordinance grants a one-time Administrative time extension for a period
not to exceed the original period granted by the ordinance. And it's normally
under the condition to complete construction or to receive final subdivision
approval or plan approval.
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So, if that period of time is five years, the Administrative time extension cannot
go beyond that. If it is longer, which is rare that we see that, I would say a
majority of the ordinances that we see come before us are five-year time terms,
then again, that period is not to exceed that original period granted.
The Planning Directors do not just automatically approve these. That condition
that's provided in the ordinance has criteria for reviewing and approving those
Administrative time extensions. And you know, he takes a very thorough look at
the request, and if it complies with those three criteria listed, then he or she can
go ahead and approve that Administrative time extension.
There have been times that I'm aware of where a Planning Director did not
approve an Administrative time extension for reasons varying from a substantial
change in the scope of the project that was presented to the Commission and
Council, or from the fact that it no longer complied with either the General Plan
or the original reasons for approving the zone change in the beginning. And they
would be requested to either revert back to the original proposed request or to
seek an extension from Commission and Council. But anyway, both Zendo and I
stand here if anyone has any questions. Thank you.
MR. INABA: Thank you, Deputy Darrow. I do want to go back. You know, we
just had bill for—Bill 199 today, actually. And at some point, language in the
rezoning bills were changed because it used to read, "If the applicant should
require an additional extension of time, the Planning Director shall submit the
applicant's request to the County Council for appropriate action."
Somewhere along the line, we're seeing that language was changed to, "Granted
that the Planning Director has authority to grant an initial time extension." So I
think we're going back to, is what always was. I'm just not sure when the
change started to happen where we put in language within each of these rezoning
bills to grant the Planning Director authority for Administrative extensions.
So, this bill that we have before us today, really puts a clear timeline as to when
conditions were agreed upon to be completed and then ensuring that if extensions
are required, those requests need to come to the County Council. And I think
that's very clear; there's a clear distinction there.
And I think, perhaps this Planning Department leadership could agree that maybe
we wouldn't include that language that grants them that authority anymore. But
I think for transparency and accountability moving forward, that we know, if it's
five years, it's five years; if it's ten years, it's ten years.
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And if the conditions aren't met, we as a Council or whoever's on the Council at
that time, will hear and consider the conditions that weren't met, and making
sure that any changes to the bill or to the ordinance will be made. So, happy to
answer any questions from my colleagues, but I think it's very straight forward
and goes back to what we were doing just ten years ago based on what I'm
seeing on Bill 199.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Mr. Inaba. Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Oh, thank you, Chair. I just want to say,
I'll be supporting this today, given the Director's neutral position on the bill and
Mr. Inaba's breakdown of why he thought this was important. And thank you,
Mr. Inaba for bringing this forward. I yield.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Director and Deputy Director for
that explanation. So, you basicallyI'm trying to see if I can understand it.
You said nothing can go past the original five years that's been granted, or the
extension cannot go more than that five years. Is that correct? Did I hear you
correct?
MR. KERN: Yes. Zendo Kern, Planning Director. So,the condition is
specifically baked into the rezoning ordinance, and the conditions state that the
time extension allowed to the Planning Director cannot exceed the original time.
So if the original time was five years, then that Administrative time extension
cannot exceed that five years, right, so you could give a time extension for that
five years and that's it.
MS. DAVID: Okay. And so, I just wanted to confirm that because I'm not sure
and maybe thank you, Mr. Inaba for bringing this forward, and maybe that can
be fleshed out, because there a lot of community concerns that—especially in
Kona. We've got approved subdivisions that go back 20-somewhat years. I'm
just wondering what those situations entail and have they been extended, or they
just stay there until somebody does something.
I think this is an important issue, because if all of these preapproved subdivisions
that have been actually in limbo for many, many years decide to come forward
yeah, it's something that we know that might happen. And I think when you
folks consider Mr. Inaba's proposed bill,just look into those kinds of things
because that's what I think the concern is.
It seems like developments that were approved, you know, several years ago still
on the books still on the books and feel either they sell it or somebody else
comes forward with an investment proposal, and then they already have that in
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hand, and it could be years. And I'm just tossing that out there for when you
guys consider this. Those are things that are very real as far as proposed
subdivisions that have already been approved but not done yet, especially on the
west side.
So, that's all I have to say. I don't need you to answer any questions right now,
but I think that should be a big consideration. And I just want to say thank you
again, Council Member Inaba, for bringing the topic up front and center for
discussion, because it's due. Thank you, I yield.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Vice Chair Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Yeah, wow, hit the nail on the head. Thank you, Mr. Inaba.
This is a topic that's been brought up very often for those constituents in
District 7. I want to thank you for taking the time, and the energy, and the
diligence to really look at this in depth.
One of the things that I have heard passed around a number of different times, is
a request for a list of all the developments that have been approved and where
those properties are, and where they are on the timeline. I'm not sure of the
capacity for the Planning Department to provide something like that, but I think
that it would be really helpful. Not only for this Council, but just in general. To
see what's out there, what's already been committed to; what the timelines are at;
what are expired; what are asking for extensions.
I see a common thread in conversations here in Council when asking for
Department of Water Supply for a list of, where are all the water credits? How
many are there out there? How many have been given? Where have they been
allocated to? Same thing for affordable housing credits. And I see a lot of
synchronicity here when we're talking about time extensions.
District 7 constituents suffer and struggle under the insecurity of developments
that were approved and received entitlements decades ago. There are even water
credits associated with these developments. And there's a lot of prospecting, and
unfortunately, a lot of the things that were approved of decades ago no longer
align with, or are outside the scope of what our current infrastructure can sustain.
And that's what I really am hopeful for, for this piece of legislation, that it can
continue to provide that check and balance.
Because we're at max capacity in a lot of these spaces. Our roads can't handle
it; our sewer systems can't handle it. And building for more external influx of
homebuyers is not resilient or regenerative. And it's causing a demise and real
stress for a lot of people in District 7.
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So, we want responsible development. We want progressive thinking with
adequate infrastructure improvements prior, so that Kona can remain for the
people, by the people, with the people authentically in that capacity. So thank
you, Mr. Inaba for bringing this forward, and I am hopeful that maybe Planning
could provide something. Maybe, it's, you know, broken down per district, so
we could take a look at and really authentically be able to see what's already
been put out there.
So, it might be a pipe dream, but now's the time for pipe dreams, because there
is funding coming for infrastructure improvements. So as we try to realign,
reconnect, and regenerate our communities, I think this will be a fantastic tool
for that. So, I yield.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Ms. Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you, Chair. And thank you, Council Member Inaba for
bringing this forward. You know, generally speaking, I do support anything,
that things about more accountability, transparency, and opportunity for more
public input. I just had a legal question for either you or for Corporation
Counsel, and it was kind of hinted at, I think, by the testifier.
Since many of the more recent zoning ordinances would have a condition that
says that the director may extend the initial extension, will this supersede that?
Or for those ordinances at least will that still be the case and any new ordinances
that are put forth at this time, you know, if this were to pass, it'll only apply to
them? Is my question clear? Thank you.
MR. INABA: Yah, I think it's clear, Chair. May I? The intension is only for
bills expiring after this bill. If this bill before us shall pass, only then after would
you know, not granting any extensions by the director not be allowed. So, it
wouldn't go retro. If the director had previously granted an Administrative
extension, then that would stand. So for example, if a bill expired yesterday and
the director granted an extension today, and the bill passes in a month, that
extension stands.
MS. KIMBALL: Right, right, okay.
MR. INABA: Yah, I mean, that's what it's saying here. Once it goes into effect.
MS. KIMBALL: So, my question again would beI understand that. If the
extension or if the current authorization has not expired and yet there is the
clause in there that the director"may" extend it one time. That extension has not
happened yet. If this bill were to be in place, does it override that condition or is
the condition still valid?
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MR. INABA: I would call Corporation Counsel forward. My intention would
be that the Code overrides a specific rezoning ordinance, being that it's in the
Code. But, I'll let Corporation Counsel answer it.
(Note: At this time, Corporation Counsel Elizabeth Strance came forward
to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. STRANCE: Good morning, Elizabeth Strance, Corporation Counsel.
When an ordinance passes as to a specific piece of property, and there are
conditions granted to that piece of property, they're normally considered to be
entitlements. And so, the authority granted in that entitlement, has already been
granted. And so, we can look into it further, but there was no question that I
anticipated today. But as a general statement, that a Council can't generally go
back and amend a piece of legislation that's already passed.
So these zoning ordinances are just that. They're laws that are already passed.
And so, the intention that you're stating would be that you're changing these
laws that have already been passed, and these entitlements that have already been
granted. But we can certainly take a look at that further, and just to confirm my
understanding of the general law.
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you, Judge Strance. And it probably would be worth
just examining. But there's timeI'm happy to support this referral to the
Planning Commissions. It may be actually that we just want to put,just some
wording, so that there's not conflict and there's clear understanding that if it's
already been granted. You know, I would agree that it would probably be
perceived as an entitlement. One piece the Code can't, you know,take that
entitlement away just like that. But, appreciate the feedback, thank you. I yield,
Chair.
MS. STRANCE: May I comment further?
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Yes, go ahead.
MS. STRANCE: So, the other piece of this is that these bills routinely come in
front of you. And so, going forward, if it's your intention not to grant additional
and specific authority to the Planning Director. That would be something that
you folks will also need to pay attention to.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Ms. Lee Loy, did you have your light on? You have the
floor.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. Completely support this, and especially its
pathway back down to Planning Commission. Partly because it's a complex
process. But I have a couple of questions for our Planning Director and Deputy
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Planning Director, which might sound maybe even sarcastic. But, how did we
land on five years for a timeline of development, or completing various
conditions of approval?
MR. KERN: That's a good question. I'm going to default to a gentleman that's
been here a lot longer than I have. Jeff?
MR. DARROW: Thank you. Council Member Lee Loy, I you know, I'm not
sure how that particular number came about. And as mentioned, it's not always
five years. They look at it terms of the size of the project. If they're relatively
small projects, then normally five years is a standard. Yeah, I mean even on our
very, very small projects, they normally have a five-year timeline. When they
are larger projects, then they'll go as much as ten or even longer years to
complete construction. So, I'm not sure exactly when five years actually
originated and why they actually came up with that particular number.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you for that response. And with this going back down to
the Planning Commissions, can we explore that? Because we saw a number of
applications today at varying sizes. But some are more complex than others.
I've seen projects having to get a LOMR (Letter of Map Revision) or CLOMR
(Conditional Letter of Map Revision). We have no way of controlling the
Federal Government and/or that review of a flood map. We see connections to
State roads. We have no control of a timeline with the Department of
Transportation. We see cultural impact statements needing review prior to plan
approval. Again, another State agency that we have no control over.
And I like where this is going, because I also think that if there is an opportunity
to be realistic about the time that we're providing these developments to move
forward, we actually will see some of the projects come online. And the
housing, and the commercial, and the infrastructure being met to fit community.
If we could take that time to explore that down in Planning Commission and ask
those realI know it seems simplistic, but it is a real fundamental question. Are
we being realistic to give someone a five-year window to build a project when
there are so many varying agencies that have to lean in and give approvals? Is
that something we can do, Director, Deputy Director?
MR. KERN: Yah, Council Member Lee Loy, certainly, we can get into that. It's
part of a larger conversation that we're having, which also leads to, you know,
when these zoning conditions and the time runs out, it leaves these properties in
a state of limbo that doesn't revert it back to its original zoning. And the current
zoning that they got isn't also there. And so, what happens then, right? Some
initiation has to happen, like we saw earlier today with the Oshiro's. For them to
even get their property back to its original zoning, they had to go through this
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process to get there, which is something else that we're looking at. But,
absolutely, we can get into that.
MS. LEE LOY: Yeah, thank you. And then, it's that investment, right, into
securing it. And then, I know a lot of smart land use attorneys who would say
that, there has been vested interest rights. When they go ahead and start paying
for a lot of these maps or studies, or review of a flood channel, that there has
been a significant amount of investment, which leans in on an entitlement issue.
And again, the complexities of all of this. But if that's some of the work we can
do down in Planning Commission, I would love to see that when it comes back
for us to make some decisions around this. Thank you, Chair, I yield.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Anybody else? Mr. Inaba,
want to wrap it up here?
MR. INABA: Yep, thank you. And want to mahalo Council Member Kimball
for that question. I'll talk story with Corporation Counsel. Whatever it is, it will
be. So,thank you for pointing that out. And to Council Member Lee Loy's
point, yes, I think we rely on the advice and expertise of the department as to
how long an applicant would need. And the point of this is not to—is if they
need 10 years, and that's the realistic. And if it's not met in 10 years, then you
come back to the Council. So, mahalo for the good discussion and I look
forward to talking story with the Commissions when the bill is referred to them.
Thank you.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Would you like to make a motion to refer to the
Commissions? Go ahead.
MR. INABA: Yes. So, I will make a motion to refer Bill 194 to the Planning
Director and both Windward and Leeward Planning Commissions for review and
recommendation.
CHR KIERKIEWICZ: Any discussion? All in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Motion Mr. Inaba moved to refer Bill 194 to the Planning Director
to Refer: and Windward and Leeward Planning Commissions.
(Approved) Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members David, Inaba,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kierkiewicz–7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Chung and Richards –2.
Excused: None.
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ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 11:47 a.m., Ms. Lee Loy moved to adjourn
MENT: the meeting. Seconded by Mr. Inaba, and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members David, Inaba,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kierkiewicz— 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Chung and Richards—2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIERKIEWICZ: Planning Committee is adjourned at 11:47 a.m. Thank
you everyone.
Approved:
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Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Chair (Date)
Planning Committee
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