HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN GOEAC 2023/04/18 (2022-2024) Committee on Governmental Operations
and External Affairs
7th Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
April 18, 2023
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Governmental Operations and
ORDER: External Affairs was called to order at 1:15 p.m., in the Council Chambers,
Kailua-Kona, by Ms. Cindy Evans, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms. Cindy Evans, Chair
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Vice Chair
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member
Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Member
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member
Absent& Excused: Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called
by the Chair:
Patti Pinto Bill 32 (Comm. 149), in opposition.
Taliesin McEnaney Bill 32 (Comm. 149), in opposition.
Jan Marshall
(Vacation Land Subdivision) Bill 32 (Comm. 149), in opposition.
Lisa Murayama Bill 32 (Comm. 149), in opposition.
Jennifer L. Stotter Res. 74-23 (Comm. 151), in support.
CHR. EVANS: Mr. Clerk, I want to take out of order, and I want to hear first
Resolution 74-23.
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Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members, the
of Business: following items were taken out of order:
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
Res. 74-23: URGES AWARENESS AND PLEDGES SUPPORT TO PROTECT NATIVE
HAWAIIAN WOMEN AND GIRLS FROM ABUSE AND EXPLOITATION
Seeks to increase awareness of the Holoi A Nalo Wahine `Oiwi: Missing and
Murdered Native Hawaiian Women and Girls Task Force Report, and
encourages the community to promptly recognize indications of sex trafficking
and abuse and to immediately report any such instances to the proper
authorities.
Reference: Comm. 151
Intr. by: Ms. Kagiwada and Ms. Lee Loy
; and
Comm. 151.1: From Council Members Jennifer Kagiwada and Susan L. K. Lee Loy dated
March 20, 2023, transmitting a request for a presentation by Nikki Cristobal, Ph.D.
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kagiwada moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 74-23. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. EVANS: Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. To start off the conversation we're very lucky to
have the principal investigator for this report here with us, Dr. Nikki Cristobal.
Nikki if you want to come forward here. Nikki is, like I said, the primary
investigator for this report, which is included in your packet. She's originally
from Kauai, she has a Ph.D. in education and policy, and in 2021 started
Kamawaelualani Corp., which is a non-profit that really is dedicated to art,
culture, education, and community activations. So very lucky to have her today,
and Nikki if you want to give us some updates or talk about your report a little.
(Note: At this time Nikki Cristobal, Ph.D., Kamawaelualani MMNHWG
(Missing and Murdered Native Hawaiian Women and Girls) Task Force,
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. CRISTOBAL: Yes, mahalo for having me.
MS. KAGIWADA: Actually, I'm sorry, one quick second, sorry. Council
Member Lee Loy, do you have anything to add? I'm sorry. No, you're ready,
okay. Go ahead.
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MS. CRISTOBAL: Mahalo, for having me. Nikki Cristobal, I'm the principal
investigator, like Council Member Kagiwada said of the Holoi a nalo Wahine
`Oiwi report. And I just wanted to start with a quote from an adult survivor to
open up my testimony.
(Note: At this time,Nikki Cristobal provided a PowerPoint presentation to the
members of the Committee. For viewing of the presentation, see the DVD copy
of the proceedings on file in the Clerk's Office, or online at
http://hawaiicounty.granicus.com. A hard copy of the presentation is made a part
of the record. See Comm. 151.1.)
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you so much for being here,Nikki. This resolution
really points to many of the things that Nikki has talked about today. And as far
as the be it resolved clauses of this resolution, I think the three things that I really
wanted to do was one, bring more awareness about these issues. And that starts
with, you know, having Nikki talk to us today, but also, she's going to be going
over at UH (University of Hawai`i) Hilo this evening to do a presentation for the
public, so I think that's awesome.
To encourage us to when we're thinking of services for the public, that we make
sure that we include–that we're really looking at native Hawaiian women and
girls, and that they are being serviced correctly, and that we're collecting the data
as noted. As I have spoken with both the Prosecuting Attorney's Office and our
Police Department about as they update their software and the ability to collect
data that they really consider how they can collect the correct data and not lump
large categories together, that makes it really hard to see what's going on in our
community. So appreciate everybody's support on this and love to hear your
discussions and questions for me or Nikki. Thanks.
CHR. EVANS: Members, anyone else? Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you, Chair. Thank you so much for bringing this forward.
When you're reading through the report when you say,there's no smoking gun
you see a few smoking guns in here. Some of which, you know, are 130 years
old, in terms of the historical drama to native Hawaiians. And pinpointing of,you
know, certain,key events in history,that have contributed perhaps to where we are
today are all shared here. So it's a very valuable report, especially for our county
and what we do and being mindful. Prior to meeting on the Council, we had
started that—was it a monthly report of our runaway youth, was that you
Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder who brought that forward? And it was a normal report
that the Police Department sent over to the Council, because we were having so
many cases of either missing or runaway youth here, on our island. So to
highlight and bring all this information before us today in this space, I'm thankful.
So mahalo,Nikki, and mahalo to Council Member Lee Loy and Kagiwada.
Chair, I yield.
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CHR. EVANS: Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. This is near and dear to
my heart, and I appreciate you coming and providing this presentation report to us
via this resolution. I'd like to touch bases with you offline, and get a feel for what
you're bringing to the table and see how that works with something that we've
created on our end through my office, to try and address sex trafficking, and
domestic violence, and those kinds of things happening in our community. Yeah,
we're way beyond the point of is it happening, it's more so solution oriented, and
how do we address that.
There's a lot of different aspects that we can get into. Some of the major ones
being runaways tend to be, especially victims, they're definitely at risk, and
identifying them; we started working on a monthly report of runaways from our
Police Department. To the other end of the spectrum, which is the proprietors
tend to be well off, well paid, not what's government officials, military, and
everybody in the spot light, as far as the perpetrators are, which is your trust and
support are what it's supposed to be. So, there's a lot of different aspects at play.
Even the education spectrum, my daughter is 16 native Hawaiian and when she
was 12, 13, 14, her homework was to come home and watch a movie. And I'm
watching the movie that she's watching, and it is like a Hollywood portrayal of
Old Hawai`i. As they begin it's like you have your missionary's and your native
Hawaiians. And it's interesting but then there's this scene that struck me as just
being completely wrong and why my kids are watching it, I couldn't tell you. But
the ship comes in, you know, old wooden ship sails. Sailors are on the boat and
native Hawaiian women come swimming to the boat topless, and come to offer
themselves to the men on the ship. And then the next scene is a brutal display of
domestic violence and exploitation from the same sailors to the local women.
And my wife and I are going, what is the DOE (Department of Education)
thinking sending this home to be watched by our children. I know there's a
learning component there, but I'm just like, why are we watching this? This is
just in my eyes completely out of line. You learn from your past, but there's also
this point of perpetuating the drama, which is kind of what you're touching on, as
well as generational trauma. So love to touch bases with you offline and see how
we can integrate what you're doing with what we're doing. Sorry, go ahead.
MS. CRISTOBAL: No,just mahalo.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, mahalo. Thank you for bringing this
forward, Ms. Lee Loy and Ms. Kagiwada, appreciate it.
CHR. EVANS: Okay, members? No, okay, Member Lee Loy.
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MS. LEE LOY: Yeah, thank you. Thank you to my colleagues for their support.
This dais knows that I've tracked a lot of things related to the Department of
Hawaiian Homelands and a few figures that stick out in my head is that here on
Hawai`i Island we have almost 120,000 acres of trust lands with the Department
of Hawaiian Homelands. Fifty seven percent of them from the State, I mean we
have the largest land holdings on top of we have, about 2,800 leases for our native
Hawaiian beneficiaries. And so if we are to solve anything related to this issue,
it's right here at home.
And so, I really do appreciate Ms. Kagiwada inviting me into this piece of
legislation and support wholeheartedly. I think the next iterations of your report
as you refine that information, but understanding why it's so critically important
for us here on Hawai`i Island. Because of our trust lands, along with at some
point, we are going to have more Hawaiians moving here, because of that large
land holdings. So anything we can do now to start addressing those inequities
early will help serve our beneficiaries in the future. So, thank you to Mr. Inaba,
too, to really highlighting those generational traumas that happen that are often
times too scary to talk about, but we carry them with our kupuna. And so thank
you, Ms. Kagiwada, for inviting me in on this. But to my colleagues, thank you
for all of your support on this resolution. I yield.
CHR. EVANS: Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you for being here. You look really familiar, and we
were sign waving for women's reproductive health rights months ago. Was that
you that joined us holding a sign related to missing and murdered native women?
MS. CRISTOBAL: I did hold signs for that, but I was on Kauai.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay. Well my heart was comforted to see you here today,
and wow to get a Ph.D. And to have a focus on this deeply disturbing,
historically generationally, unacceptable. You know, the ironies and hypocrisy in
the movie that Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder used as an example,
atrocious, right, in just how that story was being told in that movie. The
implications of the women's intentions were just all of these radical displays of
degradation.
I really appreciate Council Member Inaba's recognition,just looking through the
historical traumas and what that does. Perpetuating the cycles with domestic
violence, and then our young children; boys and girls being raised with that kind
of pain and perpetuated trauma is tragic and unacceptable.
I just was getting some information from one of my constituents about stories of a
young girl being raped and murdered in my district, and that I haven't seen
anything about it in the news or I have a close relationship with community
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policing and trust the people that I work with implicitly. So it's really hard to
navigate what's going on, where is it going on, how's it going on, what's being
reported, how it's being reported. And perhaps part of the tragedy is if somebody
is already missing from their life, and those that would report it,then when some
tragic death befalls them, let's say, there isn't anybody to report it per-say.
So it's really close to home. I have two daughters, and just long for the day, as
women, we continue to be our rights and body autonomy; continue to be attacked.
And grateful that there are women like yourself and your colleague sitting behind
you who are standing up, speaking up, and demanding that it be given the
attention it's due.
Thank you; Council Member Kagiwada for bringing this forward. I look forward
to voting in support of this resolution, but that this is brought forth in the public's
eye for continued conversation, and focus, and accountability. So thank you, I
yield.
CHR. EVANS: Okay, any other member? If not, I want to tell you the way I feel
about it. No more, no more, it's over, it's over with this; the way I feel about this
issue, no more. We're not going to tolerate anymore. And I will say that I got to
meet a lot of Hawaiian women that were in our prisons, and the ones I met happen
to be in Kentucky. They had been taken there because we didn't have a place to
house them in Hawai`i. They were in a prison facility that was runed by white
Caucasian Kentucky Southern men. I walked in that facility and saw a hundred
women under that particular environment, and was shocked that the State of
Hawai`i and the leadership would allow that kind of environment.
And I had the opportunity to interview and to talk to some of the Hawaiian
women. I have to tell you, those that have been trafficked, those that have been
assaulted, those who have been treated really badly, when they lashed out and
they had enough, they normally end up in prison. Because when they lash out it's
usually, unfortunately you know, it's in a way that our society won't tolerate, you
know, you beating someone up, or killing someone, or stabbing them, or whatever
it is that got you there, but you understood that they had enough.
And what I think that the beauty of this report is it's truly starting to say to
everybody, enough is enough. And then, we're talking about the leadership of
public safety, the governor, the lieutenant governor, whoever is in a position of
authority needs to know enough is enough. So they can learn about signs, they
can learn about behaviors, they can start questioning themselves; am I
participating inadvertently, am I allowing this behavior to happen? I just think
it's wonderful. And the other thing I want to tell you is the biggest and hardest
problem we have had for years and years is to get Congress to give Hawaiians and
Pacific Islanders their own data set. We have been buried; our Hawaiians, I want
you know, have been buried inside Asian data sets.
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And so what happens is you can't get your voice and your issues to people to see
what's going on. And so this type of reporting and, really, I hope OHA (The
Office of Hawaiian Affairs) and the trustees of OHA are really spot on with this.
And making sure our congressional delegation is spot on with this report, because
this is like all across the board, be it a congressional state, county, police, it
doesn't matter. We have to say no more. And so hats off, thank you for your
work, and thank you for bringing this forward. And with that if there's no more
comments, I'd like to take the vote. All in favor, any opposed?
Vote on Res. 74-23: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 74-23 was
(Approved) carried by the following roll call vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Evans— 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
MS. EVANS: Mr. Clerk, I'd like to take Communication 187 and
189 out of order.
Comm. 187: REAPPOINTMENT OF JULES DUDOIT TO THE SALARY COMMISSION
From Mayor Mitchell D. Roth, dated March 30, 2023, requesting the Council's review
and confirmation.
Requires Council
Confirmation by: May 13, 2023 (Section 13-4(k)
Hawai`i County Charter)
Vote on Comm.187: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend confirmation of the
(Approved) reappointment of Mr. Jules Dudoit to the Salary
Commission. Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Evans—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Executive Assistant to the Mayor Pomaika`i Bartolome came forward
and provided a brief narrative of the nominee's background and
experience. Committee Members spoke in favor of the appointment.
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Comm. 189: NOMINATION OF LUAHIWA NAMAHOE TO THE SALARY
COMMISSION
From Mayor Mitchell D. Roth, dated March 31, 2023, requesting the Council's
review and confirmation.
Requires Council
Confirmation by: May 14, 2023 (Section 13-4(k)
Hawai`i County Charter)
Vote on Comm. 189: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend confirmation of the
(Approved) nomination of Ms. Luahiwa Namahoe to the Salary
Commission. Seconded by Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kimball, Villegas, and Chair Evans—7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: Committee Member Lee Loy— 1.
Executive Assistant to the Mayor Pomaika`i Bartolome came forward
and provided a brief narrative of the nominee's background and
experience. Committee Members spoke in favor of the appointment.
Return to Order The Chair directed the Committee to return to the order of business.
of Business:
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 185: NOMINATION OF ERIC P. GEE TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION
From Mayor Mitchell D. Roth, dated March 30, 2023, requesting the Council's
review and confirmation.
Requires Council
Confirmation by: May 13, 2023 (Section 13-4(k)
Hawai`i County Charter
Vote on Comm. 185: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend confirmation of the
(Approved) nomination of Mr. Eric P. Gee to the Youth Commission.
Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following
voice vote:
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Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Lee Loy, Villegas,
and Chair Evans—7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
and Kierkiewicz—2.
Excused: None.
Executive Assistant to the Mayor Pomaika`i Bartolome came forward
and provided a brief narrative of the nominee's background and
experience. Committee Members spoke in favor of the appointment.
Comm. 186: NOMINATION OF RICHARD REGO TO THE FIRE COMMISSION
From Mayor Mitchell D. Roth, dated March 30, 2023, requesting the Council's
review and confirmation.
Requires Council
Confirmation by: May 13, 2023 (Section 13-4(k)
Hawai`i County Charter)
(Note: Comm. 186.1, from Mayor Mitchell D. Roth dated April 13, 2023,
transmitting a letter of withdrawal to Comm. 186, was circulated.)
Withdraw Comm. 186: Mr. Roth announced the withdrawal of Comm. 186.
Comm. 188: NOMINATION OF CHEYDON A. NALEIMAILE-EVANGELISTA TO THE
YOUTH COMMISSION
From Mayor Mitchell D. Roth, dated March 30, 2023, requesting the Council's
review and confirmation.
Requires Council
Confirmation by: May 13, 2023 (Section 13-4(k)
Hawai`i County Charter)
Vote on Comm. 188: Ms. Lee Loy moved to recommend confirmation of the
(Approved) nomination of Mr. Cheydon A. Naleimaile-Evangelista to
the Youth Commission. Seconded by Mr. Inaba and carried
by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball,
>
Lee Loy, Villegas,as and Chair Evans— 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
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Executive Assistant to the Mayor Pomaika`i Bartolome came forward
and provided a brief narrative of the nominee's background and
experience. Committee Members spoke in favor of the appointment.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
STATEMENTS The following individuals registered, to speak in opposition to Bill 32
FROM THE (Comm. 149), and came forward when called by the Chair:
PUBLIC ON
BILL 32: Eileen O'Hara.
Dane Dupont.
Bill 32: AMENDS CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 25, SECTION 2-138, OF THE HAWAI`I
COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO
APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS
Clarifies that public funds may only be used for the actual costs of expenditures
directly applicable to the service or activity covered by the grant award
agreement and that public funds may not be used for the repayment of debts.
Reference: Comm. 149
Intr. by: Ms. Kimball
Postponed: March 21, 2023
(Note: There is a motion by Ms. Kimball, seconded by Ms. Galimba,to
recommend passage of Bill 32 on first reading.)
CHR. EVANS: Member Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to first start out and thank
everyone that submitted written testimony, and to folks that testified in person
today, as well as the folks who were able to meet with me and Council Member
Kierkiewicz to discuss this bill. There were some very clear points made that I
think caused me to want to pull this bill at this stage and rework it a little bit.
Primarily for clarity of language. There're some things that are not well defined,
like what is an administrative cost, when we have a fiscal sponsor and there are
costs associated with that, how does that pass through. So there's a little more
research that I want to do internally, and then also talking some more with our
non-profits before we proceed on this.
But one of the things that I just want to acknowledge is, I really appreciate Judge
Strance and our auditor for their time to talk with us about the public use of funds,
and what some of our obligations are. I will say that my intention with
introducing this bill was verynarrowly focused and perhaps somewhat myopic.
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As presiding officer of this body, I was primarily concerned that we were
executing our roles properly and we were protected from the misuse of funds.
Because I had that myopic view, I failed to see the interpretation from other
points of view. And that's why the democratic process is so important because
folks in the community have shared their concerns about interpretations other than
what I originally intended. So, I will not immediately here withdraw the motion
unless anybody else wants to make comments. But otherwise, I'd like to proceed
to withdraw the initial motion.
CHR. EVANS: Does any member want to offer any comments before we move
on? Okay, Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI I-KLEINFELDER: Just one brief comment. It was brought up
to me by some of our testifiers today that we need to be aware of federal
guidelines for use of funds for non-profits. Just something to think about as we
go down the line. That was news to me. I didn't know that, but when I heard
that, that was going to be my question today. So, I'm glad you are cognizant of
that and going to work on that. Thanks, I yield.
CHR. EVANS: Thank you. Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Yes, thank you, Chair. And to the maker, yes,thank you. I
really just want to thank you for tackling a section of the code that overtime our
own non-profit grant-in-aid has continued to struggle with. And as we refine all
the different pieces of that, I really do appreciate you holding it back and
reworking it to a place that really is serving community. And our office has a lot
of notes on these things, so if you don't mind, I'll just go ahead and forward that
to you as you continue to do your diligence in this area.
Also, I know that we were also trying to solve for a bright line of understanding
on the use of our own contingency funds. And hopefully can dust off our own
rules and procedures and advance our own Council Rules around the use of our
contingency funds that meets up with a lot of the definitions that you're exploring
right now. So, thank you so much and really appreciate just the working on
policy that's not always as fluent as we want it to be. Thank you, Chair. I yield.
CHR. EVANS: Thank you. Members seeing none, do I have a motion to
adjourn?
MS. KIMBALL: Actually, I'm just going to withdraw the motion to approve
Bill 32.
CHR. EVANS: Okay, oh it's a motion to?
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MS. KIMBALL: It's just a withdrawal, so there's no need for a vote or anything.
I'm just pulling the motion from the floor, as the original motioner—maker of the
motion, so.
Withdraw Bill 32: Ms. Kimball announced the withdrawal of Bill 32.
CHR. EVANS: Thank you. So Mr. Clerk, we're good to go?
There being no further business, at 2:47 p.m., Ms. Lee Loy moved to adjourn the
ADJOURN- meeting. Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
MENT:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Evans– 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kierkiewicz– 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. EVANS: Thank you, we are adjourned at 2:47 p.m. Thank you.
Approved:
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Ms. Cindy Evan _ air ( ate)
Committee on Government Operations
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